We love a good podcast so we thought we would share our individual most favoured regular listens with our Keepers in this episode but we didn’t stop there… we also asked A.I. what our choices say about us…

Jac’s podcast choices reveal a sharp, business-savvy, and intellectually curious mindset with a passion for leadership, personal growth, and high performance. Here’s what her podcast picks tell us about her:

1. A Strategic & Commercial Thinker

2. A Growth-Oriented & High-Performance Leader

3. A Deep Thinker with Intellectual Curiosity

4. Passionate About Governance & Leadership

5. A No-BS, Practical Problem Solver

Overall, Jac is a forward-thinking, results-driven leader who thrives on insightful conversations, bold ideas, and continuous learning. She values practical wisdom, high performance, and unfiltered discussions that challenge conventional thinking.

Ral’s podcast choices reveal her to be intellectually curious, politically engaged, and drawn to sharp, insightful conversations with a touch of humour. Here’s what her podcast picks say about her:

1. Thoughtful & Reflective

2. Intellectually Engaged & Politically Curious

3. Values Smart, Witty Conversation

4. Australian-Focused but Global in Perspective

Overall, Ral is a sharp, engaged, and curious thinker who values insight, humour, and deep conversations about the world. She is drawn to strong personalities, intellectual debates, and content that informs, challenges, and entertains.

Jac's Recommendations:

Prof G: https://open.spotify.com/show/7syF2ry9j6nqYc656WHBA7

Alex Hormozi 'The Game' : https://open.spotify.com/show/6YNopzKDGDwf0auIpPTIID

15 Minute Boss: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qcHSuuPHTeQfEsMcMgoEG

Take on Board: https://open.spotify.com/show/38AvsbDrdRJ5fwdL8PnSSb

Joe Rogan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3pVNAc36azP2NVP2EHb4Zh

Diary of a CEO: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0N8pwL3JeHoc34TElV7idF

Diary of a CEO Book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Diary-CEO-Laws-Business-Marketing-ebook/dp/B09VRXYMW5

Lex Fridman: https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL

Ral's Recommendations:

Pivot: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR

Wiser than Me: https://open.spotify.com/show/3zaHNdVeLiqOSXwxdoWcij

The Rest is Politics US: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6r1a2M1ISB4JALwpf2W4Yo

Not Stupid: https://open.spotify.com/show/7F6ALfNtMAKi6zuZSPbWKe

Chat 10: https://open.spotify.com/show/4vX0jVjbnlzFeWWxugNIbT

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Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We think using the ol’ ageism chestnut when you don’t get a role could be a convenient story you tell yourself. Maybe even an excuse…!

Provocative? Yep. Accurate? Maybe.

Ageism is when we discriminate based on age – younger or older, everyone could experience ageism but when we deem it the reason we didn’t get the job, or the reason we weren’t promoted or the reason we were made redundant or sacked, we would like to challenge your thinking…

In this episode we ask you to answer this question:

“Are you relevant?”

Have you kept up your training, growth and skills development? It’s a jungle out there… things are changingrapidly so if you’re not keeping up then you’ll be pushed out and your age won’t have anything to do with it!

Nanna Phillips and Nanna Dolan reckon they’re ageless progressives… because age is an attitude and they both continue to learn, grow and put themselves out there when it comes to ensuring they remain relevant irrespective of the number on their birth certificate! !

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Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Salary negotiation should be taught in school Jac & Ral reckon.

Both have had long careers in corporate as well as working for themselves, so negotiating salaries and incomes are something they have a bit of experience in.

In this episode they share stories about what they did well and what they did wrong when it comes to seeking out higher salaries with their employers.

Things like:

• What is it I want and why do I deserve it? Know your value
• Do your research when it comes to the salary range/benchmarking
• Think about the mutual value exchange for both parties (ditch the winner and the loser mentality)
• Know when to walk away
• Move with strategy not emotion!

And here’s a tip.. as professional female speakers, don’t ask them to speak for free on IWD!

Enjoy Keepers!

Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fiji

https://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss

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https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg

Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/

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Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown