When I think of working in sales, two movies come to mind: The Wolf of Wall Street and Glengarry Glen Ross. Ruthless sales tactics where people will stop at nothing as long as it lines their pockets with money. My old friend Lawrence takes me along his journey in the sales space from retail to B2B, and busts some myths of salesmen.

Guest: Lawrence Ly

Items mentioned:

Backdoor Banter Podcast:https://www.instagram.com/backdoorbants/Grant Cardone training video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL1AESpPgNQ

Chapters0:00 Intro1:05 How we know each other2:41 Why is Lawrence here, how he landed his first sales job6:59 How Lawrence and I applied for work as 16 year olds8:43 The WORST WORK EXPERIENCE EVER12:48 The most satisfying quitting story16:16 Never stay with the counter offer when you quit18:39 What was the commission there like?19:48 Extended warranties suck, my fridge warranty issue22:38 The motivation to get into sales - wolf of wall street?23:59 Was uni a scam?25:53 Experience working at Bing Lee27:55 That mate who hooks you up with the discounted goods29:41 Leaving for ANZ, dead people getting credit cards?32:57 Why not pivot into high positions within banking?35:00 After ANZ - JD Sports, crazy customers, physical threats43:20 How was the call centre environment?45:16 The uni capstone unit, an interesting group48:54 EHP Labs, $100 a day?!51:41 Whoring yourself out for any role after graduating54:20 The work at EHP Labs57:28 How to tailor the script for influencers1:01:19 The dream job wasn't the dream1:05:16 Moving to Gartner after getting fired1:11:29 Dealing with rejection1:12:49 Advice for someone starting in sales calls1:21:58 Why not advance within Gartner?1:24:02 How many states are there in Australia?1:26:11 How do you find prospects? A buffet during covid.1:30:00 What is Lastpass? Other password managers1:32:27 What other sales tactics are used in B2B?1:35:22 How is salary broken down?1:42:39 Why stick around LastPass?1:43:41 More hours = more money?1:46:25 How AI has helped in the world of sales1:47:55 How to maintain business relations1:49:32 Funny story - Lawrence's biggest Bing Lee sale1:56:37 Most creative way to close a sale - PRETENDING TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY?!2:01:01 Advice for someone starting sales generally2:03:18 Reading body language, finding common ground2:06:33 Backdoor Banter Podcast

I get 4 guests on and Nathan and I chat about their lives. Don't forget to use the timestamps! Apologies for the audio quality, we'll be back to the 'professional studio' space soon. :)

Thank you Trang for letting us film in your cafe! Venue Instagram: ⁠@Mondays2166

Sister restaurant: Nourishmint Cafe

Note: I was meant to upload this last week but that thunderstorm took out my internet LOL...

Guests: Maxwell, Renee, Alan and Trang

Supporting: Nathan

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0:28 Maxwell - Intro
1:29 Maxwell - How was the HSC?
2:25 Maxwell - Beating Matt in ATAR
4:12 Maxwell - Emotions leading up to the exams
5:10 Maxwell - What's he doing when not locked in? What's Dial up?!
6:27 Maxwell - New skibidi slang
7:08 Maxwell - Post HSC plans, career goals
9:15 Maxwell - What's an issue in Cabra he would fix?
11:15 Maxwell - Travel plans
11:45 Maxwell - He doesn't even know his own bro is married
12:20 Maxwell - How was Matt as a brother?
14:20 Maxwell - HSC performance feels
15:00 Maxwell - Topic for English?
16:36 Maxwell - Maths performance
17:33 Maxwell - 4 months off, what now? Tattoos?
19:35 - Renee - Intro
20:10 - Renee - Experience being a primary school teacher
20:31 - Renee - Side hustles
LINK RENAISANCE NAILS
21:11 - Renee - Kids' attention spans
22:06 - Renee - What do kids talk about these days?
23:50 - Renee - Canteen food
24:50 - Renee - Do teachers do much after school?
26:30 - Renee - Do you recommend being a primary school teacher?
28:04 - Renee - Biggest lesson a student has taught you
28:50 - Renee - Travelling during school holidays
29:50 - Renee - Hobbies outside of work
31:38 - Renee - Expanding the nail biz
33:19 - Renee - Are your students watching this?
34:20 - Alan - Intro
34:51 - Alan - SMASH volunteer
35:39 - Alan - We love bargains (robot vacs)
37:17 - Alan - RM Williams
38:00 - Alan - Why is Alan here? Comparing muffins
39:38 - Alan - Maccas app deals
40:11 - Alan - Experience driving an EV
45:15 - Alan - Novated leasing, bike theft
47:17 - Alan - More EV stuff
51:01 - Alan - What's so good about SMASH?
53:07 - Alan - Why should I attend SMASH?
55:58 - Alan - How are they getting cars into buildings?
58:55 - Trang - Intro
59:38 - Trang - What's it like being a business owner in Cabra?
1:01:30 - Trang - Seeing the high school kids grow up to adults to drink
1:02:14 - Trang - This cafe is actually so hidden
1:03:40 - Trang - Everyone in Sydney is so busy compared to Melb
1:04:09 - Trang - Supporting a lot of locals
1:05:10 - Trang - Ube liqueur
1:05:40 - Trang - Working in Hospitality
1:08:33 - Trang - Advice for potential business owners
1:09:24 - Trang - Monday's sister Cafe