When I think of working in sales, two movies come to mind: The Wolf of Wall Street and Glengarry Glen Ross. Ruthless sales tactics where people will stop at nothing as long as it lines their pockets with money. My old friend Lawrence takes me along his journey in the sales space from retail to B2B, and busts some myths of salesmen.

Guest: Lawrence Ly

Items mentioned:

Backdoor Banter Podcast:https://www.instagram.com/backdoorbants/Grant Cardone training video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL1AESpPgNQ

Chapters0:00 Intro1:05 How we know each other2:41 Why is Lawrence here, how he landed his first sales job6:59 How Lawrence and I applied for work as 16 year olds8:43 The WORST WORK EXPERIENCE EVER12:48 The most satisfying quitting story16:16 Never stay with the counter offer when you quit18:39 What was the commission there like?19:48 Extended warranties suck, my fridge warranty issue22:38 The motivation to get into sales - wolf of wall street?23:59 Was uni a scam?25:53 Experience working at Bing Lee27:55 That mate who hooks you up with the discounted goods29:41 Leaving for ANZ, dead people getting credit cards?32:57 Why not pivot into high positions within banking?35:00 After ANZ - JD Sports, crazy customers, physical threats43:20 How was the call centre environment?45:16 The uni capstone unit, an interesting group48:54 EHP Labs, $100 a day?!51:41 Whoring yourself out for any role after graduating54:20 The work at EHP Labs57:28 How to tailor the script for influencers1:01:19 The dream job wasn't the dream1:05:16 Moving to Gartner after getting fired1:11:29 Dealing with rejection1:12:49 Advice for someone starting in sales calls1:21:58 Why not advance within Gartner?1:24:02 How many states are there in Australia?1:26:11 How do you find prospects? A buffet during covid.1:30:00 What is Lastpass? Other password managers1:32:27 What other sales tactics are used in B2B?1:35:22 How is salary broken down?1:42:39 Why stick around LastPass?1:43:41 More hours = more money?1:46:25 How AI has helped in the world of sales1:47:55 How to maintain business relations1:49:32 Funny story - Lawrence's biggest Bing Lee sale1:56:37 Most creative way to close a sale - PRETENDING TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY?!2:01:01 Advice for someone starting sales generally2:03:18 Reading body language, finding common ground2:06:33 Backdoor Banter Podcast