• Stewarding Your Body Well: Fitness for Busy Moms in Their 30s and 40s (with Personal Trainer Meg Gibson) + Summer Podcast Break Announcement [Ep 49]
    May 31 2026
    Stewarding Your Body Well: Fitness for Busy Moms in Their 30s and 40s (with Personal Trainer Meg Gibson) Host Michelle Barnett welcomes listeners to the Mommin’ Together podcast, shares the mission of creating a space for moms to feel seen, and announces a two-month break with no new episodes in June or July, returning in August; listeners can stay connected via Instagram @mommin_together with posts and episode replays.In this episode, Michelle talks with personal trainer and mom of three Meg Gibson about realistic fitness for busy moms in their 30s and 40s, emphasizing consistency over perfection, short effective workouts, and avoiding an all-or-nothing mindset. Meg shares her journey from insecurity and an eating disorder to integrating faith with fitness, and they discuss misconceptions like needing punishment to see results, prioritizing strength training for bone density, listening to postpartum and aging bodies, benefits beyond appearance (mood, patience, sleep, hormones), creatine basics, when to hire a trainer, and starting with small sustainable habit changes.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:42 Summer Break Update01:25 Fitness Episode Preview02:00 Meet Meg Gibson03:15 Meg Fitness Journey05:36 Faith Meets Fitness08:25 From Punishment to Freedom11:15 Balance Not Obsession15:42 No Time to Work Out18:46 Best 20 Minute Focus22:49 Cardio Trends and Spin26:33 Fitness Myths in 30s 40s28:51 Longevity and Mobility30:30 Blue Zones and Community30:55 Daily Walking Longevity31:37 Fitness Shifts In 30s34:44 Creatine For Women36:28 Creatine Hydration Tips38:51 Workout Benefits Beyond Looks40:52 Making Workouts Mom Friendly42:34 When To Hire Trainer45:30 First Training Session47:36 Training As Safe Haven50:43 Simple Steps This Week52:37 Habit Stacking Ideas53:42 Connect And Mom Hack56:27 Episode Wrap And BreakConnect with Meg:Meg Gibson is a fitness coach, creative, and mom of three who’s passionate about helping women feel strong, capable, and confident in their bodies. With 9 years of experience in personal and group training, she combines practical fitness, nutrition, and encouragement to help women pursue sustainable wellness in every season of life. She is a NASM-certified personal trainer, Revelation Wellness instructor, GGS Women’s Coaching Specialist, and certified PN1 nutrition coach.Meg spent much of her 20s in full-time missions with her family, traveling throughout the U.S. and overseas before planting roots in Tyler, TX. When she’s not coaching or creating marketing content for the gym she works at, you’ll likely find her outside in the sunshine, near the water, making art, or hunting for the perfect thrifted find. She’s been married to her high school sweetheart for 14 years and considers motherhood one of her greatest joys.IG @meggibsonfitResources: Revelation Wellness Podcasts https://www.revelationwellness.org/podcast/Atomic Habits Book https://www.instagram.com/meggibsonfitOffer- For listeners local to Tyler, TX: one free week of classes at Rise RX Fitness - redeem in personConnect with Michelle & Stay Plugged in with Mommin’ Together this Summer:Mommin’ Together Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230
    Show More Show Less
    58 mins
  • The Mom’s Guide to Color Analysis - How Knowing Your Colors Can Save Time, Money & Decision Fatigue (House of Color with Lexi Sherrod) [Ep 48]
    May 20 2026
    The Mom’s Guide to Color Analysis - How Knowing Your Colors Can Save Time, Money & Decision Fatigue Lexi explains what a House of Color consultation is and how in-person draping identifies undertones (blue- vs yellow-based) and whether colors should be bright/clear or soft/blended, placing clients into one of four seasons with four sub-seasons each and a fan for shopping. She walks through a two-hour appointment: arriving fresh-faced with natural hair covered if needed, determining season, doing a 90-second season-specific makeup routine, and rating “wow” colors. The conversation covers why color analysis has resurged as a way to reduce overwhelm, save money, and increase confidence, including tips for wearing black, using accessories, and trying brown mascara (for spring, summer, and autumn). Lexi distinguishes color from style analysis (body architecture and clothing personality), shares transformation stories, discusses hair color guidance, franchise flexibility for moms, typical pricing, capsule wardrobes, online shopping/returns, and ends with motherhood advice about grace and self-care.00:00 Meet Lexi and Color Analysis00:48 How House of Color Works02:17 Drapes Explained03:44 Why Color Analysis Returned06:56 Inside a Consultation11:02 Seasons and Sub Seasons13:29 Making Mom Life Easier18:34 Mascara Color Surprise21:56 Wear What You Love22:49 Colors Versus Style24:44 Style Archetypes Explained26:45 Online Shopping Tips28:58 Client Transformations31:37 Hair Color By Season33:54 Franchise Flexibility37:26 Pricing And Long Term Value39:21 Capsule Wardrobe Strategy40:36 Shopping With Intention42:29 Connect And Book43:15 Mom Hack And ClosingConnect with Lexi: Lexi Sherrod is the owner of House of Colour Tyler and a Certified Personal Color and Style Consultant with House of Colour. She has helped over 300 women simplify their wardrobes, feel confident in what they wear, and truly see their God-given beauty.As a wife and mom to three young boys, five and under, Lexi understands how easy it is in this season of life to put yourself last or feel overwhelmed getting dressed each day. Through color and style analysis, she helps women take the guesswork out of their closets so they can feel put together with less effort. At the heart of everything she does is her mission: to empower women to walk confidently and joyfully in their unique and perfect design through the power of color and style.Social MediaInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/houseofcolour_tyler/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/houseofcolourtylerWhere to book:https://www.houseofcolour.com/stylists/lexi-sherrod-tyler-texasMention the Mommin Together podcast for a free lipstick in your season when booking!Connect with Michelle:Mommin’ Together Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/⁠Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230
    Show More Show Less
    47 mins
  • Why So Many Moms Feel Lonely (And How to Find Real Mom Friends) with Gather Moms Leaders Kate & Rebecca [Ep 47]
    May 13 2026
    Why So Many Moms Feel Lonely (And How to Find Real Mom Friends) with Gather Moms Leaders Kate & Rebecca [Ep 47]Michelle Barnett welcomes listeners to the Mommin' Together podcast and introduces a conversation with Kate Henderson and Rebecca Bradford, founders of Gather Moms, about why many moms feel lonely even with full schedules and how to build life-giving community. Kate shares her experience as a young mom who found friendship through church, mentoring, and neighborhood groups, and explains how Gather Moms began to help isolated moms, citing that 90% of moms report severe loneliness at some point and noting the launch of over 400 groups since 2017. Rebecca and Kate describe community as God-designed, emphasize friendships changing by season, and encourage filling gaps with trust, extending grace, and resisting comparison fueled by social media. They discuss courage in initiating friendships, navigating boundaries and differing parenting choices, using prayer and vulnerability, and practical ways to support moms, and they explain Gather Moms’ “middle lane” model, resources, and how to connect.00:00 Welcome to Mommin Together00:28 Why Moms Feel Lonely00:52 Meet Gather Moms Founders01:51 Kate Story Finding Community03:55 Gather Moms Origin and Growth07:07 Courage to Make Friends09:25 Fill the Gap With Trust10:01 What Real Community Means15:21 Why Loneliness Persists17:41 First Steps to Find Friends23:04 Friendships Take Time24:50 Why Mom Friendships Get Complicated29:14 Handling Hurt Feelings33:48 Managing Expectations and Seasons35:09 Grace for Moms of Littles36:08 Jealousy and Comparison37:40 Social Media and Gratitude39:47 Sanctification Over Time41:22 Showing Up for Moms43:37 Practical Help Ideas46:22 Vulnerability Builds Community50:03 What Makes Gather Moms52:54 Community in Crisis57:11 Why Moms Need Moms01:01:59 Mom Hacks and Home Reset01:07:26 Final Encouragement and OutroConnect with Kate, Rebecca & Gather MomsKate and Rebecca lead Gather Moms, a vibrant community helping moms connect, find encouragement, and grow in faith through an approachable model of small groups, workbooks, and RightNow Media videos. Together, they co-lead the Gather Moms Podcast, have written several Bible studies for moms, and regularly teach women with their encouraging blend of authentic storytelling and biblical truth. With Gather Moms, lonely and overwhelmed moms are finding community and churches are empowered to launch simple, relational moms groups that transform families and communities.Website: gathermoms.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gathermomsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gathermomsGather Moms Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gather-moms/id1525911637Gather Mom Workbooks & Studies: Mom’s Let’s Talk https://amzn.to/4d7KkqqMom Struggles https://amzn.to/4uNIcKoFamily Values https://amzn.to/48ZCYTfHomegrown: A Mom’s Guide to Planting Faith in the Lives of Her Children https://amzn.to/4eJopH9More Than Enough: A 4 Week Journal for Moms https://amzn.to/4d5KDBZKate and Rebecca invite you to join them for summer in the Psalms on social media! Connect with Michelle:Mommin’ Together Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/⁠Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 8 mins
  • What My 8-Year-Old Thinks Makes a Good Mom | A Sweet Mother’s Day Episode [Ep 46]
    May 7 2026

    What My 8-Year-Old Thinks Makes a Good Mom | A Sweet Mother’s Day Episode

    For a special Mother’s Day episode, Mommin' Together Host Michelle Barnett interviews her eight-year-old daughter, Brooklyn, for a kid’s perspective on motherhood and growing up. Brooklyn describes what she thinks a podcast is, shares her grade and favorite activities, and explains what makes a good mom, what she’d change as “mom,” and what Michelle could do better, such as sending letters when they’re away and being supportive when someone is hurt. They discuss family routines like life group, movie nights, prayer time, and dinner together, Brooklyn’s contributions, challenges like self-control, and what she enjoys about being a big sister. They also talk about favorite memories, a dream mom-daughter date, and what Jesus might say, before Michelle closes with thanks and a request to rate, review, and share.


    00:00 Welcome to Mommin Together

    00:31 Meet Brooklyn

    02:09 What Makes a Good Mom

    02:37 If Brooklyn Ran the House

    04:19 How Mom Can Improve

    05:53 Proud of Mom

    06:44 Family Routines We Love

    07:24 Helping the Family

    08:04 Hardest Part of Being a Kid

    09:28 Best Part of Being a Kid

    09:47 Big Sister Life

    10:57 Things Mom Always Says

    12:20 What We Are Good At

    13:10 Favorite Memories

    14:25 Dream Mom Daughter Date

    15:35 Best Mom in the World

    15:47 Best Part of Being a Mom

    16:30 What Jesus Would Say

    17:21 Mother's Day Thanks and Wrap Up


    Connect with Michelle:

    • Mommin’ Together Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/⁠
    • Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠
    • Join our Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠
    • Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979
    • Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230
    Show More Show Less
    19 mins
  • The Support Every First-Time Mom Needs: Practical Help for Overwhelmed New Moms with Starla Lawrence [Ep 45]
    Apr 29 2026

    The Support Every First-Time Mom Needs: Practical Help for Overwhelmed New Moms

    Host Michelle Barnett welcomes listeners to the Mommin’ Together podcast and interviews Starla Lawrence about Square One, a ministry for first-time moms. Starla shares her background as a longtime Air Force family member, mom of four, and grandmother of nine, and explains how discovering Square One in a Nordstrom bathroom in Dallas led her to bring the program to Tyler through prayer, volunteers, and church support, launching it in September 2014. She describes Square One’s six-week, low-key gatherings with weekly speakers and practical topics for new moms, including postpartum depression and anxiety, marriage changes, feeding support, pediatric guidance, and setting boundaries with family expectations. Starla emphasizes the power of community, the theme verse Proverbs 14:1, and encourages moms to care for themselves and their marriages while finding or creating supportive spaces for new mothers.


    00:00 Welcome to Mommin Together

    01:14 Meet Starla Lawrence

    01:39 Starla Family Background

    03:47 Nordstrom Bathroom Moment

    05:45 What Square One Is

    06:55 Bringing Square One to Tyler

    09:20 Stories of Real Impact

    13:52 Topics and Practical Tools

    19:25 Sleep Deprivation and Anxiety

    22:14 What Every New Mom Needs

    23:41 How to Join in Tyler

    25:27 Starting It Anywhere

    28:07 Best Mom Hack Advice

    31:14 Wrap Up and Encouragement


    Connect with Starla

    Starla has a passion to encourage women in marriage and motherhood. She founded Tyler’s Square 1 program in 2014 to support and encourage first-time moms and their newborns. Square 1 at Grace Community Church recently held their 24th session and has “birthed” multiple other groups in east Texas. She has also served as a mentor for MOPs programs and other moms groups. She’s been married to her husband Scott for 48 years and they share 4 daughters, 3 sons in law, and 9 (perfect) grandchildren. They have resided in Tyler for 27 years now. She believes it is much scarier to live in one place this long than to move every two years. Since they aren’t moving anymore, Starla and Scott enjoy traveling. Her hobbies include knitting, rug hooking, and sharing a delicious hot latte with friends.


    Starla’s Email: boxo@aol.com


    Upcoming Square 1 Tyler Info: A six-week session offered in February and September each year. Next session begins Tuesday September 8 (9:30-11:30) at Grace Community Church on Old Jacksonville Highway. Online registration opens in early June (gcc.org/square1) and is open to all first -time moms in our greater Tyler community. Cost for the session is $10 total.


    Connect with Watermark Church to learn more about starting a Square 1 in your town: https://www.watermark.org/ministries/square-one


    Resources:

    Praying The Scriptures Over Your Children by Jodie Berndt


    Connect with Michelle:

    • Mommin’ Together Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together ⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/
    • Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠
    • Join our Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠
    • Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979
    • Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230
    Show More Show Less
    32 mins
  • The Moments Your Kids Will Remember Most (It’s Not What You Think) with Anna Thomas [Ep 44]
    Apr 22 2026

    The Moments Your Kids Will Remember Most (It’s Not What You Think)

    Host Michelle Barnett welcomes listeners to the Mommin’ Together podcast and shares how ordinary moments can become the memories kids cherish most, then talks with her friend Anna Thomas about creating meaningful traditions in simple, realistic ways. Anna, a mom of three in Pennsylvania, explains how her mom modeled small celebrations and how, after struggling with comparison and early motherhood challenges, she embraced celebrating as a God-given strength. She shares practical ideas like a “birthday box” instead of a baby book, easy holiday table surprises, reusing decor, wrapping paper as table runners, and end-of-school celebrations. They discuss bigger moments like mid-year kid-focused parties, sibling “share sessions,” speaking affirmations over kids, avoiding social-media pressure, and keeping celebrations rooted in joy, humility, and faith.


    00:00 Welcome to Mommin Together

    00:31 Why Moments Matter

    01:41 Meet Anna Thomas

    03:20 Learning to Celebrate

    04:53 Letting Go of Mom Guilt

    07:08 Birthday Box Memory Hack

    08:50 Simple Traditions That Stick

    13:56 Faith and Everyday Joy

    15:24 Bigger Celebrations Midyear

    17:41 What Kids Remember Most

    20:23 Celebrating Each Personality

    23:09 Passing the Joy Forward

    24:24 Modeling Joy at Home

    27:15 Milestones and One on One Time

    28:13 Speaking Life Over Kids

    31:18 Simple Creative Celebrations

    35:18 Gratitude Jar Tradition

    36:51 Vacation Learning Rhythms

    39:14 Books That Inspire Celebration

    42:55 Mom Hacks and Final Encouragement


    Connect with Anna:

    Anna Thomas is a long-time friend of mine. She hails from Texas and currently resides in Pennsylvania. She’s a devoted wife, rockstar mom of 3 busy pre-teen/teens, a creative homemaker and one day at a time she’s attempting to create a little ☀️ shine in the lives of others.

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abelleinthesun/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AbelleThomas


    Resources:

    Cold Tangerines: Celebrating the Extraordinary of Everyday Life by Shauna Niequist

    Choosing Real: An Invitation to Celebrate When Life Doesn’t Go As Planned by Bekah Jane Pogue

    The Circle Maker: Praying Circles Around Your Biggest Dreams and Fears by Mark Batterson


    Connect with Michelle:

    • Mommin’ Together Instagram: @Mommin_Together ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/⁠

    • Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠

    • Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠

    • Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979

    • Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230


    Show More Show Less
    45 mins
  • Raising Confident Kids: Why Effort-Based Praise Matters More Than You Think [Ep 43]
    Apr 2 2026

    Raising Confident Kids: Why Effort-Based Praise Matters More Than You Think

    Praise the Process: Compliments That Build Confident, Resilient Kids

    Michelle Barnett welcomes listeners to the Mommin’ podcast and shares why she created a community for moms. She explains how common compliments about looks or outcomes (“you’re so smart,” “you look beautiful”) can unintentionally teach kids that worth is tied to performance or appearance. Drawing from her own experience of achievement-based praise and a parenting book that resonated with her, she encourages praising effort, persistence, creativity, kindness, and character traits children can control. She provides many example compliments focused on process and who a child is becoming, warns that parents’ self-talk about insecurities can influence kids, and challenges moms to give one or two specific, character-based compliments daily. She invites listeners to download the compliment list on Mommin’ Instagram/Facebook and asks for shares, ratings, reviews, and feedback.

    0:00 Welcome to Mommin’ Together

    00:29 Why Praise Matters

    00:50 Process Over Outcomes

    02:32 Effort Based Compliments

    03:33 Beyond Appearance Praise

    04:29 20 Character Boosters

    06:01 Daily Praise Challenge

    07:07 Wrap Up and Share



    Connect with Michelle:

    • Mommin’ Together Instagram: @Mommin_Together ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/mommin_together/⁠

    • Michelle Barnett Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michelle_barnett_/⁠

    • Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484794095771993⁠

    • Podcast on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mommin-together/id1787094979

    Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hn6cFLziITGVFuSXiI4ty?si=6c7abc0f099f4230

    Show More Show Less
    8 mins
  • Does My Child Need Speech Therapy? Everything Moms Need to Know About Signs, Airway Issues & Therapy Options with Kim Gray [Ep 42]
    Mar 18 2026
    Speech Therapy 101 for Moms: Signs, Timing, School Services, and Airway Links Host Michelle Barnett introduces the Mommin’ Together podcast and interviews licensed speech language pathologist Kim about what speech therapy is and when kids may need it. Kim shares her background, describes pediatric domains including articulation, receptive and expressive language, social language, stuttering (developmental vs. persistent), and feeding/swallowing, and highlights early signs such as limited babbling or vocabulary, not responding to sounds or name, hearing issues, and communication-related frustration. They discuss “late talkers,” developmental sound norms (most sounds by age five), and how airway issues (sleep apnea signs, palate shape, mouth breathing, snoring, teeth grinding, bedwetting) can affect attention, growth, and speech, sometimes addressed with scans, expanders, and tie revisions. Kim compares private vs. school-based therapy eligibility and models, notes homeschool/private-school access to public services in Texas, explains variable therapy duration, suggests at-home language-building strategies, and provides ways to connect via Teach Speech ETX resources.00:00 Welcome to Mommin Together00:48 Meet Kim the SLP01:15 Kim’s Path to Speech Therapy04:06 What Speech Therapy Covers07:29 Stuttering and Feeding Basics11:03 Early Signs to Watch14:58 Late Talker or Delay17:09 Cute Mispronunciations and Norms20:06 Airway Issues and Oral Exam26:08 Airway Resources and Growth30:49 Starting Early vs Later33:22 Private vs School Services33:43 Private Therapy Options34:52 School Eligibility Cutoffs37:17 Group Versus One On One38:49 Services Without Enrollment40:24 Requesting Evaluations Right43:04 Homeschool Outpatient Programs45:03 How Long Therapy Takes49:11 Home Language Routines54:35 When To Get Evaluated56:12 Apps Tools And Contact01:01:14 Mom Mindset And Presence01:04:52 Final Encouragement OutroConnect with KimKim Gray, a licensed and certified speech-language pathologist through the Texas State Board of Examiners and the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA). I have extensive experience over the last 15 years with supporting children ages 2–18. I specialize in articulation, language development, social communication, identification of orofacial myofunctional disorders, family-centered therapy, and advocacy for school based services. I am a wife, and a mom to two beautiful children, and an avid dog lover/ rescuer and foster. Teach Speech ETX Website http://teachspeechetx.comTeach Speech Phone: 903-521-5368Resources: Free Developmental Milestones Checklist: https://www.facebook.com/teachspeechetxGet Speech Therapy Through a School - Texas Project First: https://texasprojectfirst.org/Speech Therapy Apps: For articulation:1. Speech tutor 2. Articulate it 3. Articulation station hive.4. Articulation games 5. Speech box For language: Speak easy Speech blubsPok pokMy words For visual schedules: Choiceworks ReadysetEast Texas Airway Specialists:Beyond Pediatrics DentistryEast Texas Orofacial MyologyDr. Tad MorganDr. Evans - Healthier SmilesMosaic DentistryDr. Capps OrthodontistAirway Educators on Instagram:Oral Motor InstituteBreathe_instituteRestorateive_myoAskthedentistConnect with Michelle:Instagram: ⁠@Mommin_Together @Michelle_Barnett_ Join our ⁠Mommin’ Together Facebook Community⁠
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 5 mins