Jilly is childfree (by choice) so has opted for bilateral salpingectomy (tube removal) surgery as an alternative to contraception. This method of sterilization is permanent contraception to allow her to remain childfree/never have children and prevents the need for other birth control to prevent pregnancy. Her family don't know that they plan to remain a childless couple - find out all about her decision and how she plans to tell them. Transcript: ----more---- 0:00:00.080,0:00:05.280 hi welcome to the show as part of this series on the decision about whether to have children 0:00:05.280,0:00:09.360 we're joined today by julie who's here to give us her insights we're not here to make 0:00:09.360,0:00:14.160 any particular judgment just to chat about some of the factors which real people just like you 0:00:14.160,0:00:21.280 take into consideration hi guys how are you doing hi ryan how are you good to see you again 0:00:21.280,0:00:24.720 i'm good thank you and we don't talk enough paul we need to fix that 0:00:24.720,0:00:27.280 well this is what we're here for this is why we're doing life is it just me 0:00:27.920,0:00:32.400 this is what it's all about well we're about to find out julie's here to talk to us julie tell us 0:00:32.400,0:00:41.520 a bit about yourself uh so i'm obviously female um we'll be 30 later this month so close enough 0:00:41.520,0:00:47.600 well happy birthday for when that comes i'm getting old um you said that yeah well 0:00:50.640,0:00:57.200 i don't want kids so i'm going for surgery instead and your surgery is this 0:00:57.200,0:01:04.880 friday four days from now as of this recording tell us a bit then just briefly about the actual 0:01:04.880,0:01:11.760 surgery and what we'll delve into that later yeah so i am going for a bilateral self-injecting 0:01:11.760,0:01:18.480 if that's how i say it or by self so they're going to entirely remove both looping tubes um which 0:01:19.760,0:01:23.440 it's just it's better than a lot of the other traditional tubal operations because 0:01:24.080,0:01:28.080 much less much lower chance for like ectopic pregnancies it lowers your risk for a lot of 0:01:28.080,0:01:35.600 ovarian cancers on top of just no babies okay okay they had to do a lot of research because 0:01:35.600,0:01:39.360 there are quite a few options on exactly how to get different ways to get sterilized well 0:01:39.360,0:01:44.080 that was going to be one of our questions and obviously it still is it still is yes 0:01:46.320,0:01:52.480 um self-injecting me that's the the procedure you're having yep yep i said that right great 0:01:52.480,0:01:59.440 yeah and bilateral self-injecting so and some people would think that that's quite an extreme 0:01:59.440,0:02:04.160 step to take obviously you've not got there lightly you've taken a lot of consideration 0:02:04.160,0:02:09.040 you just said that you've done a research what were the other options could you kind of outline 0:02:09.040,0:02:14.000 some of the other options that were available so i mean some of the other like more well not 0:02:14.000,0:02:18.240 popular but more commonly known ways i'm doing is just doing a tubal ligation which is either 0:02:18.880,0:02:23.920 they pinch or use little clips on the tubes basically just block any flow or they'll 0:02:23.920,0:02:30.480 just cut small portions off and like cauterize the ends um but there's a lot more things can 0:02:30.480,0:02:34.480 go wrong with that like you said higher risk of ectopic pregnancies if they use devices there's 0:02:34.480,0:02:40.400 a chance of your body not liking the fact that there's devices in there and getting infections 0:02:40.400,0:02:46.000 or sometimes the eclipse will move right and margaret so that just none of that sounded fun 0:02:48.080,0:02:53.120 so just by looking at all of the pros and cons i wanted to do with the the bicep instead and then 0:02:53.120,0:02:58.720 when i went in for my consultation the ob gyn i went to said that they pretty much only do 0:02:58.720,0:03:03.920 biceps now anyway because they're much shorter surgery they're easier to do and 0:03:04.640,0:03:07.920 mainly because the added benefits of lowering ovarian cancer risks so 0:03:08.800,0:03:14.720 at least in my area that's the more common one to go for okay and where is it roughly you don't 0:03:14.720,0:03:19.120 have to give us like your postal address or anything roughly where are you located 0:03:19.120,0:03:24.640 i am in new hampshire in the united states okay okay and but we're going to delve into 0:03:26.240,0:03:32.880 the the surgery i guess itself and some of the reasons um later on but i wanted to just 0:03:32.880,0:03:37.200 get to know a little bit about you and your your upbringing before and and how you sort 0:03:37.200,0:03:40.880 of got to this place if that's the right way of putting it so if you could start there please 0:03:41.520,0:03:47.680 so yeah...