• Winter is Coming for OpenAI

  • Oct 22 2024
  • Length: 1 hr and 23 mins
  • Podcast

Winter is Coming for OpenAI

  • Summary

  • Brace yourselves, winter is coming for OpenAI - atleast, that's what we think. In this episode we look at OpenAI's recent massive funding round and ask "why would anyone want to fund a company that is set to lose net 5 billion USD for 2024?" We scrape through a whole lot of muck to find the meaningful signals in all this news, and there is a lot of it, so get ready!


    • (00:00) - Intro
    • (00:28) - Hot off the press
    • (02:43) - Why listen?
    • (06:07) - Why might VCs invest?
    • (15:52) - What are people saying
    • (23:10) - How *is* OpenAI making money?
    • (28:18) - Is AI hype dying?
    • (41:08) - Why might big companies invest?
    • (48:47) - Concrete impacts of AI
    • (52:37) - Outcome 1: OpenAI as a commodity
    • (01:04:02) - Outcome 2: AGI
    • (01:04:42) - Outcome 3: best plausible case
    • (01:07:53) - Outcome 1*: many ways to bust
    • (01:10:51) - Outcome 4+: shock factor
    • (01:12:51) - What's the muck
    • (01:21:17) - Extended outro

    Links

    • Reuters article - OpenAI closes $6.6 billion funding haul with investment from Microsoft and Nvidia
    • Goldman Sachs report - GenAI: Too Much Spend, Too Little Benefit
    • Apricitas Economics article - The AI Investment Boom
    • Discussion of "The AI Investment Boom" on YCombinator
    • State of AI in 13 Charts
    • Fortune article - OpenAI sees $5 billion loss in 2024 and soaring sales as big ChatGPT fee hikes planned, report says

    More on AI Hype (Dying)

    • Latent Space article - The Winds of AI Winter
    • Article by Gary Marcus - The Great AI Retrenchment has Begun
    • TimmermanReport article - AI: If Not Now, When? No, Really - When?
    • MIT News article - Who Will Benefit from AI?
    • Washington Post article - The AI Hype bubble is deflating. Now comes the hard part.
    • Andreesen Horowitz article - Why AI Will Save the World

    Other Sources

    • Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence Foundation Model Transparency Index
    • Cointelegraph article - Europe gathers global experts to draft ‘Code of Practice’ for AI
    • Reuters article - Microsoft's VP of GenAI research to join OpenAI
    • Twitter post from Tim Brooks on joining DeepMind
    • Edward Zitron article - The Man Who Killed Google Search
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