Can creativity mean more for software than productivity? Do we need to let go of “hardcore developer stuff”? Will getting more people to major in computer science fix everything? Ashley and Cat chat with Change, Technically’s first guest star SUE SMITH about developer learning and the future of software teams as technology changes.

Credits
Sue Smith, guest
Ashley Juavinett, host + producer
Cat Hicks, host + producer
Danilo Campos, producer + editor

While not mentioned in the episode, we would be remiss if we did not link you to Sue's illustrated collections of HTTP status codes:

- Golden Girls variant
- Keanu Reeves variant

Cat mentioned this paper by Dr. Natasha Quadlin as an example of how the same achievement information can be interpreted very differently by biased viewers during hiring:

Quadlin, N. (2018). The mark of a woman’s record: Gender and academic performance in hiring. American sociological review, 83(2), 331-360.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0003122418762291

Dr. Quadlin has many fascinating projects on inequality and a book with Brian Powell tackling questions about inequality and college: https://www.russellsage.org/publications/who-should-pay

Learn more about Ashley:

• https://ashleyjuavinett.com/
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Learn more about Cat:

• https://www.drcathicks.com/
• https://mastodon.social/@grimalkina
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