In this episode, I sit down with Vitali, co-founder of EasyStaff.io, a freelance payroll and marketplace platform processing over 20 million euro per month across its ecosystem. Vitali shares his journey from mining Bitcoin in Russia back in 2012 to building a multi-product fintech platform with a real, functioning DAO at its heart. We dig into why most DAOs fail to get participation, how EasyStaff Connect DAO distributes 90% of tokens to users based purely on business activity, and how the community is already voting on real product decisions. Vitali also opens up about the challenges of launching without venture capital, his plans to go fully open source, and why he sees blockchain-based legal token recognition as the natural next step for the platform.
Disclaimer
Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. It would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend.
Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/
Connect:
EasyStaff Website: https://easystaff.io
EasyStaff Connect DAO: https://connect.easystaff.io
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/easystaff
KEY POINTS WITH TIMESTAMPS
• [00:00] Introduction to Vitali and EasyStaff.io and the focus on DAOs
• [01:00] Vitali's crypto origin story — mining Bitcoin in 2012 with an ASIC device, selling at $300 per coin
• [03:40] Clarifying that EasyStaff Connect DAO tokens are currently centralised — blockchain integration is a future stage pending legal jurisdiction decisions
• [04:49] Overview of the two core products: EasyStaff Payroll (B2B) and EasyStaff Invoice (B2C), and how the DAO marketplace bridges the gap
• [07:03] How EasyStaff handles remote payments across multiple currencies, entities, and compliance requirements including sanctions
• [09:14] The core DAO problem: low participation and how EasyStaff tackles it with a 20% quorum, public backlogs, and personalised outreach
• [11:35] Tokens are earned through business activity only — no token sale, no secondary market, purely rewarding real transactions
• [12:44] Token holders receive monthly fiat dividends from platform profits, with the platform retaining only 3% of transaction fees
• [13:40] Community governance in practice — token holders collectively hold 90% voting power versus the founders' 10%
• [19:10] Real example of community governance: users voted to add PayPal to fast payment options
• [20:40] EasyStaff ecosystem now processes around 20 million euro per month, with one entity alone clearing 140 million euro in 2025
• [22:32] EasyStaff Connect focuses on design and graphics freelancers historically but is expanding broadly, including AI professionals
• [23:42] Upcoming addition of a recruiter network to expand the platform through intermediaries
• [25:05] Marketing strategies: AI-powered cold outreach on LinkedIn, rebranding, YouTube integrations, Forbes articles, and this podcast
• [28:43] If starting again — the biggest challenge was lack of capital, which forced a bootstrapped, revenue-first approach
• [30:36] Roadmap: completing hard-voting mechanics, moving to open source, separating DAO from the operating company, then going on-chain via a legally recognised jurisdiction such as Liechtenstein, UAE, or Singapore
• [34:37] AI adoption internally — using Claude for development and exploring Gemini for internal compliance and treasury processes, with a freeze on new linear hires