Episodes

  • Big If True Thinking, AI and Early Literacy with Kumar Garg, President Renaissance Philanthropy

    Big If True Thinking, AI and Early Literacy with Kumar Garg, President Renaissance Philanthropy
    May 8 2026
    Kumar Garg, President of Renaissance Philanthropy, rejoins host Mike Palmer for his third appearance on Trending in Ed, earning his highly coveted refrigerator magnet. Kumar discusses RenPhil's growth and its mission to help donors invest effectively in science and technology research areas like AI, climate, and education. Big If True: The conversation explores the concept of "Big If True" and the Big If True Science (BITS) accelerator. This framework focuses on transformative ideas that can have a tangible impact on a field within a three to five-year timeline. Rather than funding incremental research, BITS encourages researchers to identify the biggest goals that would make a real difference in the world if achieved. LEVI Literacy Initiative: A major focus of the episode is the Learning Engineering Virtual Institute (LEVI) Literacy Initiative. This $100 million program aims to cut the number of struggling early readers in half within the school districts where it operates. Kumar explains how improved AI diagnostics can identify speech impediments and learning disabilities much earlier than current methods, allowing for intervention before students fall behind in the third grade. A key technical challenge involves improving Automated Speech Recognition (ASR) for children. Current models are significantly less accurate for younger voices and noisy classrooms compared to adult speech. By building better datasets and benchmarks, researchers can create AI tools that serve as screeners to help speech pathologists and educators provide more tailored services early on, to ensure kids are on track by key 3rd grade literacy milestones. Learning Engineering: The episode also covers learning engineering, a field that treats the act of instruction as a systems-level challenge. Kumar highlights the dynamic dosing model from Carnegie Mellon, which combines human tutoring with digital AI tools to provide personalized learning. This hybrid approach allows students to advance at their own pace while keeping a human instructor available to manage motivation and technical hurdles. Time Stamps: 00:00 Welcome back to Kumar Garg and the refrigerator magnet 03:55 The Big If True Science accelerator framework 05:48 Launching the LEVI Literacy Initiative to help early readers 08:18 Fixing the speech recognition gap for young children 14:48 Applying learning engineering to system-level breakthroughs 22:15 Safety as an accelerant for technological innovation 30:23 Dynamic dosing and the future of human and AI tutoring Subscribe to Trending in Ed on your favorite podcast platform to stay updated on the future of learning. Visit Renaissance Philanthropy at renphil.org to learn more about their newly launched LEVI Literacy Fund and other initiatives.
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    40 mins
  • AI Literacy, Storytelling, and the Magic of Moby with BrainPOP CEO Lorin Thomas-Tavel

    AI Literacy, Storytelling, and the Magic of Moby with BrainPOP CEO Lorin Thomas-Tavel
    May 5 2026
    In this special edition of Trending in Education, former colleagues reunite as Mike Palmer interviews Lorin Thomas-Tavel, the CEO of BrainPOP. We explore the evolution of a major brand in EdTech and discuss how it continues to simplify complex topics for students and teachers alike. We dive into the 27-year history of BrainPOP, which began when a doctor created animated content to help young patients understand their own bodies. Today, the platform serves as a trusted companion for teachers in K-8 classrooms, focusing on sense-making during complicated times. We discuss the unique parasocial bond children and adults share with iconic characters like Tim and Moby, and why human-led storytelling continues to power the magic of the product. We also celebrate AI Literacy Day by talking about BrainPOP’s work on AI literacy. Lorin explains how they partnered with Digital Promise to adopt a rigorous framework that focuses on understanding, evaluating, and using AI. We discuss why AI is an additive tool rather than a replacement for the human teacher in the classroom. The conversation touches on BrainPOP’s partnership with Kirkbi, the private holding and investment arm of LEGO, and how this collaboration energizes their mission of digital play and impact. Lorin also shares leadership insights on "even over" prioritization, the 10x power of cultural fit, and her recognition as an honoree with the Power of Women at the ASU+GSV conference. Time Stamps: 00:00: Intro and a Kaplan Reunion 03:00: The History and Mission of BrainPOP 04:45: Character Pedagogy and the Power of Moby 08:50: Launching the AI Literacy Collection with Digital Promise 13:45: The Lego Partnership and Digital Play 16:45: Integrating AI While Maximizing the Human Element 19:45: ASU+GSV and the Power of Women Recognition 21:40: Career Advice on Mentorship and the Courage to Ask 23:45: Building Culture and Using Even Overs for Focus 28:30: Final Takeaways on Curiosity and Community Like, follow, and subscribe to Trending in Ed with Mike Palmer wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode like this one.
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    30 mins
  • Building Education Programs with Iconic Brands with Edconic's Victoria Weinfeld

    Building Education Programs with Iconic Brands with Edconic's Victoria Weinfeld
    Apr 24 2026
    LIVE! from the Harbor Terrace at ASU+GSV 2026 in San Diego, Mike Palmer sits down with Victoria Weinfeld, Vice President of Enrollment, Marketing, and Sales at Edconic. In this fast-paced environment of "drinking from a fire hose," Victoria shares the evolution of Edconic (formerly known as BrandED) and its unique mission to bridge the gap between traditional education and the future of work. Edconic specializes in creating industry-immersive programs alongside some of the world’s most recognizable brands, including Vogue, The New York Times, Sotheby’s, Manchester City, and their newest partner, Mayo Clinic. Victoria explains how these partnerships go beyond simple guest lectures; they involve co-designing curriculum with practitioners to ensure students gain the hands-on, practical skills that employers frequently find lacking in early-career workers . Whether it’s high school students touring the New York Times newsroom or master’s students graduating at a Sotheby’s auction house, the focus remains on experiential learning and building a tangible work-product portfolio . 🎓 The conversation also dives into the dominant themes of the 2026 conference, specifically the Power of Fusion and the unavoidable influence of AI. Victoria highlights how Edconic’s partners are now demanding AI exposure in curriculum to prepare students for day-one workplace expectations. We explore the strategic growth of Edconic’s portfolio and the potential for "white labeling" their expertise to help more organizations translate their brands into educational experiences. It’s a visionary look at how education and industry can deeply tie together to foster the next generation of talent 🚀. Want more? Check out Edconic CEO Brandon Busteed's previous appearance on Trending in Ed. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to follow, like, and subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you get your podcasts! Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction live from ASU+GSV in San Diego 01:54 - Victoria Weinfeld’s 10-year journey and the rebranding of Edconic 02:58 - Defining the Edconic model: Industry-immersive learning with iconic brands 03:52 - Highlighting powerhouse partners: Vogue, NYT, Mayo Clinic, and more 04:31 - Serving the learner lifecycle from pre-college to professionals 05:39 - The logistics of in-person, experiential access to industry facilities 06:55 - Bridging the "unprepared worker" gap and integrating AI exposure 08:52 - Strategic growth and deepening the existing brand portfolio 11:37 - The "Special Sauce": Co-designing curriculum with practitioners 14:14 - Advice for K-12 and Higher Ed on building closer industry ties 17:34 - The value of rotational "taster" experiences and portfolio building 19:12 - Alumni success stories: From summer courses to the Washington Post 20:46 - Exploring future models and "white label" educational services 21:55 - Final takeaways: AI, Fusion, and workforce development themes
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    24 mins
  • The Future of Work, AI, and Economic Mobility with Dr. Steve Taylor, Stand Together Trust

    The Future of Work, AI, and Economic Mobility with Dr. Steve Taylor, Stand Together Trust
    Apr 23 2026
    Recorded LIVE! on the Harbor Terrace at the ASU+GSV Summit in San Diego, Mike Palmer is joined by Dr. Steven Taylor, Policy Director and Senior Fellow for Economic Mobility at Stand Together Trust. Steve brings a unique perspective to the table, combining a national philanthropic lens with his roles on the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia and the National Advisory Committee for Institutional Quality and Integrity (NACIQI). The conversation captures the shifting energy of the summit, moving away from the peak of AI hype toward what Steve calls "optimistic skepticism" - a more mature look at how technology can practically transform learning while remaining grounded in the reality of its current limitations. The discussion explores the potential of AI to revolutionize the K-12 experience, using examples like Austin’s Alpha School to show how personalized learning can compress the school day, allowing students more time to pursue their passions. Steve and Mike tackle the difficult questions of equity and the "risk capital" required to bring high-cost innovations to scale. Then we pivot to the higher education landscape, where Steve emphasizes the need to dignify non-degree pathways. He shares insights from Virginia’s FastForward program, a pay-for-performance model that has successfully moved residents into high-demand fields through short-term credentials, proving that ROI isn't just a metric for four-year degrees. As the conversation turns to the future of work, Steve expresses concern over the potential displacement of entry-level roles—the "desk jockey" jobs that traditionally provide young people with essential social capital and early career experience. He argues that our labor laws are antiquated and must evolve to support a more flexible, AI-driven workforce that favors 1099 and gig-based contributions. From the necessity of correcting AI’s erroneous outputs to the complexities of AI-driven hiring and the debate over universal basic income, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the policy and philanthropic shifts needed to ensure everyone can contribute to a changing economy. Time Stamps 00:00 - Welcome to Trending in Ed Live from San Diego 01:00 - Steve Taylor’s roles at Stand Together, SCHEV, and NACIQI 02:00 - Moving from AI hype to "optimistic skepticism" 03:00 - Transforming K-12: The Alpha School model 05:00 - The role of risk capital and philanthropy in scaling tech 08:00 - Dignifying non-degree pathways and the ROI of trades 09:30 - Virginia’s "Fast Forward" and the success of short-term credentials 12:00 - Why states shouldn't let federal funding dictate workforce design 13:30 - AI skepticism: Correcting outputs and the "mid" floor 16:00 - The risk of losing entry-level career experiences 18:00 - Social capital and the "future of working" 20:30 - Why federal labor law must catch up to the 1099 economy 22:30 - Thoughts on AI adjustment assistance vs. UBI 23:30 - Closing thoughts and where to find Stand Together To keep up with the latest in the world of learning, make sure to Follow, Like, and Subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you get your podcasts.
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    24 mins
  • Unpacking Student Success in Higher Ed with Ruth Bauer, President InsideTrack

    Unpacking Student Success in Higher Ed with Ruth Bauer, President InsideTrack
    Apr 22 2026
    Mike Palmer catches up with Ruth Bauer, President of InsideTrack, amidst the sun and high-stakes energy of San Diego for the ASU+GSV conference. Ruth shares her transition from a first-generation college student and mall-employed English major to an e-learning "OG" (like Mike) to leading a powerhouse in student success at InsideTrack. The conversation dives into the "secret sauce" of Inside Track: a potent mix of technology and deep human connection. Ruth explains how coaching supports the entire student journey, from first-time enrollment to the critical "some college, no degree" population. With more than 40 million Americans in that category, the stakes for economic mobility never felt higher. They tackle the AI elephant in the room with a grounded perspective. While AI handles midnight brainstorming and routine "nudges," humans remain the essential partners for navigating the mountains of the student experience. Ruth argues that coaching doesn't just get a student through a semester—it teaches them to coach themselves through a shifting, tumultuous job market 🌊. The episode wraps with a look at student parents and the generational impact of quality childcare and flexible scheduling. Ruth and Mike trade thoughts on the "60-year curriculum" and why critical thinking remains the ultimate durable skill in an era of rapid automation. It is a refreshing, optimistic take on how education can still deliver on the promise of social mobility 🤖. Subscribe to Trending in Ed to never miss an episode like this one. Want to record pods at a conference? Contact Mike to learn more. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to San Diego and ASU+GSV 01:00 Ruth’s journey from English major to President 03:15 The mission and "secret sauce" of Inside Track 04:00 Re-enrolling the 40 million Americans with no degree 07:00 The evolution of coaching and academic advising 08:30 AI as a complementary tool for student success 11:00 The "invisible infrastructure" of community colleges 13:30 Helping Gen Z convert internships into careers 16:30 Why critical thinking beats specific job training 18:30 Supporting student parents for generational change 20:30 Final thoughts on hope and innovation in education
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    22 mins
  • Talking Outcomes-Based Literacy with Really Great Reading CEO Karl Rectanus

    Talking Outcomes-Based Literacy with Really Great Reading CEO Karl Rectanus
    Apr 21 2026
    Coming to you live from the harbor terrace in sunny San Diego, Mike Palmer sits down with Karl Rectanus, the new CEO of Really Great Reading, amidst the buzz of the ASU+GSV Summit. Between views of sailboats and silver-lined clouds, the duo digs into why literacy remains the fundamental building block of the educational system and how we might finally be cracking the code on systemic improvement. Karl shares his unique path to leadership, which began with chasing a girl to Australia and starting a digital Q&A service for children museums during the 2000 Sydney Olympics. This early taste of working through the system to help students sparked an entrepreneurial journey that led him to found LearnPlatform in 2014, where he pioneered rapid cycle evaluation to determine if EdTech tools actually work. Now, after LearnPlatform’s acquisition by Instructure, Karl is focusing his energy on a 20-year-old organization dedicated to the science of reading. The conversation highlights the "Mississippi Marathon," a state-level commitment to literacy that saw improvements in reading lead to even higher gains in math and science. Karl points out that while many schools of education have historically failed to teach the science of reading, organizations like RGR are filling that gap by giving teachers the confidence and tools to deliver results. A major theme of this live session is the shift toward outcomes-based contracting. Karl argues that instead of just selling books or assessments, providers should be held accountable for whether students actually learn to read. He also addresses the role of AI in the classroom, drawing on his experience chairing the Industry Council for EdSafe AI to discuss how technology can provide universal screeners and personalization without succumbing to "cognitive offloading". With the goal of taking schools from low proficiency to 75% in just two years, this episode is a call to action for the industry to prioritize literacy outcomes over mere tools. Stay tuned to the feed as we continue to ship more episodes from San Diego all week! Episode Time Stamps [00:00] Introduction to Karl Rectanus live at the harbor terrace [01:00] Chasing a girl to Australia and the origin of the entrepreneurial bug [02:00] Answering Olympic questions for kids museums at a fourth-grade level [03:00] Building LearnPlatform for rapid cycle evaluation of EdTech [04:00] Stepping into the CEO role at Really Great Reading [05:00] The "last infinite mile" of implementation and practice [06:00] Foundational skills building for pre-K through adolescence [07:00] Moving from the "Mississippi Miracle" to the "Mississippi Marathon" [08:00] Why many schools of education don't teach the Science of Reading [09:00] Literacy as the enabling factor for math and science success [10:00] Transitioning to a dedicated literacy outcomes organization [11:00] The "plumbing" of the system and procurement challenges [12:00] Playful learning and why students love RGR more than field trips [13:00] Safe and effective AI with the EdSafe AI Industry Council [14:00] Leveraging AI for operational efficiency and better execution [15:00] Using AI for universal screeners and real-time personalization [16:00] Addressing the crisis where two-thirds of students are below grade level [17:00] The boldness of holding providers accountable for reading results [18:00] Why the real work happens after the curriculum adoption [19:00] Managing complicated schools with high poverty and teacher shortages [20:00] Rapidly scaling reading proficiency in turnaround school districts [21:00] Prioritizing literacy to improve every facet of the system
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    22 mins
  • LIVE from ASU+GSV with Jeremy Singer, President of the College Board

    LIVE from ASU+GSV with Jeremy Singer, President of the College Board
    Apr 15 2026
    LIVE! from the ASU+GSV Summit, Mike Palmer catches up with College Board President Jeremy Singer against the backdrop of the San Diego marina to dive into the launch of Jeremy's new podcast, The Education Equation. Produced by Mike, this new series aims to bring a much-needed level of scientific rigor to the education space, drawing inspiration from data-heavy health and fitness media to identify scalable, evidence-based practices that actually move the needle for students. Jeremy shares candid insights from his 13-year tenure, detailing how the College Board moved from a culture of slow stability to one of lean, COVID-tested responsiveness and agility. The two discuss the "seismic impact" of generative AI on assessment integrity, the dangers of AI slop in professional work, and highlights from Jeremy’s early conversations with heavy hitters like Sal Khan and Daniel Willingham. From the "last infinite mile" of implementation to the necessity of statistical literacy, this live conversation captures the high-stakes evolution of modern learning. 🔔 Subscribe to The Education Equation to hear Jeremy break down the data behind educational success with researchers and global leaders. 🎧 Subscribe to Trending in Education for more high-energy, on-the-ground insights from the biggest stages in edtech and the future of learning. 📩 Connect with Mike Palmer on LinkedIn if you want to harness this kind of live energy for your own professional podcast or media program. Timestamps: 🕙 00:00:00 — Introduction: Live energy from the Harbor Terrace at ASU+GSV. 🕙 00:01:13 — Jeremy Singer’s journey: 25 years at the intersection of tech and learning. 🕙 00:02:40 — Cultural Shift: How the College Board built a "muscle of speed" during the pandemic. 🕙 00:05:54 — The AI Seismic Impact: Navigating the future of content, teaching, and assessment. 🕙 00:09:05 — Organizational Innovation: Deploying LLMs to 2,000 employees to raise the floor. 🕙 00:11:55 — The Education Equation: Bringing scientific rigor to the "what works" database. 🕙 00:15:30 — Implementation Fidelity: Why the "last infinite mile" is where progress happens. 🕙 00:18:50 — Lightning Round: Ditching "learning styles" and the power of AP Statistics. 🕙 00:22:00 — Looking Ahead: Fighting for authenticity in the age of social media and AI.
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    25 mins
  • MARCH MADNESS OF LEARNING LIVE FROM SXSW EDU with AJ Gutierrez, Jasmine Maze, and Justin Serrano

    MARCH MADNESS OF LEARNING LIVE FROM SXSW EDU with AJ Gutierrez, Jasmine Maze, and Justin Serrano
    Apr 8 2026
    We’re back in Austin for the 2026 SXSW EDU "March Madness of Learning Trends" LIVE panel. Host Mike Palmer is joined by AJ Gutierrez (CEO of Equal Opportunity Schools), Jasmine Maze (Senior Managing Director at Teach for America’s Reinvention Lab), and Justin Serrano (CEO of Littera Education) to reveal a bracket of 16 trends shaping the future of education. The conversation moves past the usual AI hype to focus on human capital and accountability. Justin Serrano introduces the "outcomes economy," describing a shift in procurement where school districts move away from buying software and toward outcomes-based contracting that holds providers accountable for student results. AJ Gutierrez highlights the continued efficacy of high-impact tutoring, noting that regular personalization within the school day remains one of the most rigorously evaluated and successful approaches to K-12 recovery. Jasmine Maze provides a necessary critique of AI as a simple productivity engine. She argues for a focus on "teacher efficiency," which means using technology to remove administrative friction and "buy back" time for the relational, human work of mentoring and master design. Mike Palmer rounds out the discussion with a call for "strategic optimism" and the importance of "unplugging" to maintain internal dialogue in an age of digital distraction. Key Takeaways: The Outcomes Economy: State departments are increasingly adopting contracts where up to 40% of payment is tied to intended student outcomes. Redefining Efficiency: Efficiency in education should mean making more time for the masterwork of human connection rather than just pressuring teachers to do more with less. Productive Distrust: As "AI slop" and mediocre content become ubiquitous, learners must develop "productive distrust," a form of critical media literacy that uses skepticism to verify sources and cross-reference information. Interoperability Standards: Initiatives like Project Unicorn and the EdSafe Alliance are essential for creating ethical, secure, and evidence-based standards for AI implementation in schools. Why Listen?This episode offers a front-row seat to the debate over the purpose of K-12 education in an automated world. The panel discusses why "play" is a critical sandbox for solving complex problems and how global perspectives—from France to Ukraine—can help educators scale best practices across different contexts. Subscribe to Trending in Education to stay ahead of the curve for the future of learning. Time Stamps: [00:00] Intro: SXSW EDU 2026 and podcast history [03:11] Meet the Panelists: Littera, Reinvention Lab, and EOS [07:09] Justin's Trends: The Outcomes Economy and SaaS Disruption [10:04] Defining High-Impact Tutoring with AJ Gutierrez [15:54] Jasmine on AI: Teacher Efficiency vs. Automation Culture [18:48] Mike's Trends: Strategic Optimism and the Vibe of 2026 [25:56] Navigating "Productive Distrust" and AI Slop [32:41] Audience Q&A: Teaching AI Literacy and the Role of Play [43:08] Global Perspectives and the Importance of Manual Work [44:42] Closing: AI as a "Fifth Element" and Thinking Partner
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    49 mins