Today's conversation is with Tony Schwartz. He's the New York Times best-selling author who's written 6 books and the Founder and CEO of The Energy Project. A firm that helps individuals and companies skillfully manage their energy in a world of relentlessly rising demand and complexity.

Tony started his career as a journalist, and the first book he wrote was "The Art of the Deal" which he co-authored with Donald Trump. The decision to write that book is something that Tony went on to deeply regret. That experience prompted him to take an entirely different path in his life.

It led to a lifelong investigation of the factors that shape our beliefs and identity, the influence of our early caregivers and the ways that we can heal and grow by accepting and acknowledging both the best and worst in ourselves.

Tony has a an amazing body of work that we talk about at great length. including how energy relates to our own transformation, how, by understanding the different sources and types of energy inside us, we can better manage our relationships and how much we accomplish in life.

We talk about the danger of looking for value from the outside world rather than inside ourselves.

We talk about how his childhood and upbringing led to so much of what he came to discover about the human condition. But ultimately what he came to describe as defenders that develop inside each of us and are on aspect of the parts of ourselves we tend not to like.

We also talk about the three different selves that make up our personality and why understanding Those different parts of our personality is a path to a very rich life indeed.

This was one of my all-time favorite conversations. It is exceedingly rare to find someone as insightful about the human condition as Tony Schwartz.

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