• There’s a Reason Even ‘Smart’ People Surrender to Trump

  • Feb 13 2025
  • Length: 29 mins
  • Podcast

There’s a Reason Even ‘Smart’ People Surrender to Trump

  • Summary

  • The deputy editor of Opinion, Patrick Healy, speaks with the columnist M. Gessen about why so many people and institutions, including Democrats, have bent the knee to Trump, despite strongly disagreeing with him.

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