In this episode, I sit down with Amy Buckman, an incredible educator and school counselor from Ohio. Amy has spent 19 years helping students navigate everything from mental health challenges to career counseling, all while motivating them to achieve their goals. We dive deep into the concept of student autonomy and how it’s transforming schools through an innovative three-year grant program aimed at fostering student engagement and agency.

Amy shares how her district is reimagining education by focusing on what really motivates students, exploring concepts like Flex Fridays, and even shadowing students to understand their daily challenges. If you’ve ever wondered how schools can adapt to meet the needs of a changing world while supporting kids’ mental health and academic growth, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss!

Episode Highlights:
[03:13] - Amy shares her background and her role as a school counselor.
[08:29] - Discussion on the three-year grant program promoting student agency.
[14:17] - Insights from shadowing students to better understand their school day.
[22:35] - How Flex Fridays aim to spark deeper learning and engagement.
[30:55] - Overcoming systemic barriers to create better learning environments.
[37:05] - The impact of giving students a voice in school decisions.
[42:07] - How passion-driven learning leads to happier, more motivated students.

Links & Resources:

• Student Autonomy & Engagement: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-disengagement-gap/
• A School of Our Own: https://thenewpress.com/books/school-of-our-own

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In this follow-up episode, I continue my conversation with Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson, authors of The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better. We dive deeper into the strategies parents and educators can use to support kids who feel stuck in “passenger mode.” From fostering autonomy to the importance of relational health, Rebecca and Jenny share actionable insights grounded in science and their own life experiences.

We also explore what it takes to help kids move from disengagement to becoming true “explorers,” igniting curiosity and confidence. Whether you’re a parent, teacher, or simply passionate about education, this episode offers powerful takeaways on how to redefine achievement, support mental health, and create environments where kids can thrive.

Episode Highlights:

[0:00] - Kicking off Part 2: How nagging impacts kids’ learning and why relational health matters.
[2:29] - Tips for parents to help kids stuck in “passenger mode.”
[5:09] - The importance of pursuing interests—even if it’s crocheting or skateboarding.
[7:50] - A pottery class transforms one student’s approach to learning and growth.
[13:05] - The role of relational health in building resilience and curiosity.
[17:37] - Technology, sleep, and setting boundaries at home.
[21:23] - How curiosity can help kids engage deeply in school and beyond.
[30:58] - Easy, practical strategies for teachers to support autonomy and agency in classrooms.
[34:08] - Final reflections on creating an environment where kids can learn, feel, and live better.

Links & Resources:

Rebecca and Jenny's book: The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better

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Are you worried about how engaged your child is in school and their learning? You’re not alone. In this episode of The Self-Driven Child Podcast, I sit down with two powerhouse guests—Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson—authors of the book The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better. Together, we dive into the alarming trends of disengagement among kids as they transition from tots to teens and why so many high schoolers feel disconnected from their education.

Rebecca and Jenny share their personal experiences, surprising research findings, and practical strategies that empower kids to take charge of their learning. We discuss the crucial role of agency in fostering curiosity and resilience, why high achievement doesn’t have to come at the expense of mental health, and how even "problem kids" can thrive when they find their spark. This is Part 1 of our conversation, and you won’t want to miss it.

Episode Highlights:
[0:50] - Introduction: Why teen disengagement should concern us all.
[2:00] - Meet Rebecca and Jenny: Their unique journeys into education and child development.
[10:13] - The shocking statistics on student engagement: Why it plummets after third grade.
[18:24] - Agency and engagement: The secret sauce for learning success.
[21:23] - Four modes of student engagement: Passenger, achiever, resistor, and explorer.
[28:11] - The neuroscience of nagging: Why it shuts down problem-solving in teens.
[32:31] - The primal need for respect: How it shapes teen development and parent relationships.

Links & Resources:

Rebecca and Jenny's book: The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better

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If you have a high school aged student and would like to talk about putting a tutoring or college plan together, reach out to Ned's company, PrepMatters at www.prepmatters.com