He presided over the infamous Casey Anthony case, but Judge Belvin Perry's remarkable career is about so much more than one trial. And now, he's written a book about it--The Velvet Hammer: Judge Belvin Perry, Jr.'s Capital Murder Cases and Memoir. We discuss growing up during segregation, his distinguished career and, of course, the Casey Anthony case.

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She's a world-famous prosecutor who took on the toughest cases L.A. had to offer, and now she's diving headfirst into one of the most intriguing true crime stories in history with her new podcast, Informants: Lawyer X. We discuss her new show and more.

What's more dangerous than a life of crime? The life of a criminal informant. As they balance volatile relationships with criminals and law enforcement, they must probe for information without raising any red flags — all while knowing that even the tiniest slip-up could get them killed. So, why do they do it? For the greater good? For personal gain? The answers are as complicated as the double lives they lead.

Hosted by famed attorney, author, and television producer Marcia Clark, Informants: Lawyer X reveals the story of Nicola Gobbo, a defense attorney who represented the key players in Australia's violent gang wars. As she appeared to become one of the gang, no one could have predicted she would turn into a police informant, selling out the very people she swore to defend. But then when the Lawyer X scandal exploded across headlines, Nicola's duplicity against Australia's most dangerous criminals and toughest cops was made public, ultimately putting her life and the lives of her children on the line. She is now in hiding, while the Australian police and legal community have to pick up the pieces and regain the public's trust.

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