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The Mental Health Evolution

The Mental Health Evolution

By: Rachel Harrison
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The Mental Health Entrepreneur podcast is back—with a slightly new name and an expanded focus. We're excited to introduce The Mental Health Evolution, where we'll continue the journey of exploring what's changing in the mental health field, and we're so glad to have you with us as a listener. Explore the rapidly changing world of mental health with The Mental Health Evolution, hosted by Rachel Harrison. Each episode brings honest conversations with clinicians, tech founders, investors, insurance companies, and other key voices shaping the industry. We dive into what's working, what's not, and what's next—from innovative startups and ethical considerations in tech-driven therapy to policy changes, access to care, and the human connections that remain at the heart of mental health services. Whether you're a professional in the field, someone seeking care, or simply curious about the evolution of mental health, this podcast provides insights, perspectives, and practical information to help you navigate a complex and fast-moving landscape. Join us to stay informed, challenge assumptions, and be part of the conversation shaping the future of mental health.2024 Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Leadership Management & Leadership Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • Ep 18: A Few of Rachel's Favorite 2025 Podcast Moments
    Dec 25 2025
    Episode Description In this special end-of-year episode of the Mental Health Evolution Podcast, Rachel looks back on some of her favorite moments from the first few months of the podcast's relaunch. Since September, the show has featured wide-ranging conversations about the evolving mental health landscape—from AI and technology to insurance reform, private equity, and value-based care. This episode brings together powerful clips and reflections from guests across the season, highlighting the ideas, tensions, and questions shaping mental health care today. Whether you've listened to every episode or you're joining us for the first time, this "best of" conversation offers a snapshot of where the field is headed—and what's at stake as we move into 2026. Episode Highlights & Segments AI and the Human Core of Therapy — Real Change Initiative A conversation with Aaron Vander Meer, Melissa Ward, and Allison Bomba explores the risks of losing human connection as AI and app-based care expand, and why preserving trust, safety, and expertise is essential. Why People Turn to AI — Ajita Robinson Ajita Robinson unpacks the systemic barriers—insurance gaps, access issues, and licensing restrictions—that drive people toward AI tools when traditional care feels out of reach. AI's Potential Strengths in Therapy — Dr. Jordan Harris Dr. Harris offers a nuanced view of AI's role, highlighting how consistent validation—when used carefully—can reduce resistance and support therapeutic progress. Policy Shifts and Mental Health Coverage — Cathy Gilbert Insurance expert Cathy Gilbert discusses the potential long-term impacts of the "Big Beautiful Bill," including coverage losses and disproportionate effects on vulnerable populations. Private Equity and the Human Equation — Dan King Dan King of Fireside Strategic shares a perspective on how clinician well-being and humane workplace culture can align with sustainable, long-term profitability. Structural Forces Shaping Care — Dr. Jane Zhu Dr. Jane Zhu emphasizes why clinicians must understand ownership structures, financing, and revenue pressures as private equity and MSOs continue to expand. Measurement-Based & Value-Based Care — Dr. Dylan Ross Dr. Ross explains why actionable, real-time data is essential for understanding whether care is truly helping patients—and why claims data alone falls short. Data, Partnerships, and Reality — Josephine Wilton Josephine Wilton highlights how value-based care efforts stall when organizations lack solid data and early operational alignment, leaving progress stuck in theory. Key Topics Discussed AI in mental health: risks, benefits, and boundaries Access barriers and systemic gaps in care Healthcare policy changes and coverage implications Private equity and investment in behavioral health Measurement-based and value-based care Data, outcomes, and decision-making in practice Main Takeaways AI can reduce burden and increase access, but it cannot replace the human connection at the core of therapy. Many people turn to AI tools not by choice, but because of deep systemic failures in access and affordability. Policy and payment changes will have long-term consequences for the most vulnerable mental health populations. Investment and growth models matter—how care is financed shapes clinician autonomy and patient outcomes. Data is essential to moving value-based care from theory into everyday clinical practice. Notable Quotes "AI isn't just a tech issue—it's a mirror reflecting the gaps in our mental health system." "Profitability and humanity don't have to be at odds in mental health care." "Without actionable data, it's incredibly hard to answer a simple question: did our patients get better?" Connect with Mental Health Evolution Website: Instagram: LinkedIn: Facebook: 🎵 Music by Zach Harrison
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    19 mins
  • Ep 17: The Future of SMI Treatment with Dr. Scott Feers
    Dec 19 2025

    Episode Description:
    In this episode, Rachel sits down with Dr. Scott Feers, Chief Medical Officer at Amae Health and a leading psychiatrist and neuroscientist, to explore the evolving landscape of severe mental illness (SMI) care. They discuss the innovative integration of technology, AI, and wearable devices into clinical practice to improve outcomes and prevent hospitalizations for individuals living with SMI.

    Dr. Feers shares insights from his decades of research and clinical experience, highlighting how Amae Health combines conventional in-person care with digital tools for monitoring, early intervention, and precision treatment. Listeners will gain a clear understanding of how mental health care is being transformed to focus on both mental and physical health, emphasizing the importance of human connection alongside technology.

    Key Topics Discussed:

    • Challenges of traditional SMI care and repeated hospitalizations

    • The role of AI in supporting clinicians without replacing human interaction

    • Wearable devices and data-driven insights for sleep, activity, and heart health

    • Early detection of relapse to prevent full decompensation

    • Integration of primary care, nutrition, and movement into mental health treatment

    • Translating neuroscience and genetics research into real-world clinical applications

    • Cost efficiencies through early intervention and improved treatment tracking

    Main Takeaways:

    • Technology and AI can augment care, but human connection remains central to mental health treatment.

    • Wearables and digital phenotyping provide objective insights that enhance clinical decision-making.

    • Early intervention can prevent hospitalizations, reducing human suffering and healthcare costs.

    • Addressing physical health is essential for improving overall outcomes for people with SMI.

    • Integrating research-based tools into routine care makes treatment more precise and effective.

    Notable Quotes:

    • "I have a very strong belief that humans and connections to humans is the core of mental health treatment."

    • "If we can catch relapse early, see if we can do low risk, simpler intervention to prevent the more complicated treatment interventions."

    • "We know that folks with serious mental illness often have reduced lifespans… a lot of the causes of mortality are basic things like cardiovascular health."

    Resources Mentioned:

    • For-profit companies open psychiatric hospitals in areas clamoring for care — CBS News

    • Private Equity Among US Psychiatric Hospitals — JAMA Psychiatry

    • Amae Health Announces $25 Million Series B — Business Wire

    Connect with Dr. Scott Feers:

    • Website: https://www.amaehealth.com/team/scott-fears

    Connect with The Mental Health Evolution:

    • Website: https://www.mentalhealthevolution.com

    • Instagram: @mentalhealthevolution

    • LinkedIn: Mental Health Evolution

    • Facebook: Mental Health Evolution

    Music Credit: Music by Zach Harrison

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    42 mins
  • Ep 16: Why Value-Based Care Can Feel So Hard with Josephine Wilton, Pt. 2
    Dec 11 2025

    Episode Description:
    In this second part of her conversation with Josephine Wilton, Chief Strategy Officer at Hullanta Consulting, Rachel dives deeper into the complexities of value-based care. Josephine draws on decades of experience in managed care strategy, population health, and contract design to explore why these models often feel difficult to implement.

    This episode examines the operational realities behind value-based care, including the importance of utilization data, the impact of contracts on organizational performance, and the necessity of interdisciplinary collaboration. Listeners will gain actionable insights on how to navigate these challenges, advocate for their teams, and optimize care delivery in a system that is constantly evolving.

    Key Topics Discussed:

    • Understanding the impact of value-based payment measures on provider organizations

    • Why utilization data is critical for telling your organization's story

    • Contract design and its influence on revenue, operations, and organizational outcomes

    • Engaging specialists and ancillary providers in value-based care

    • The role of social determinants of health in patient outcomes and reimbursement

    • Strategies for data-driven decision-making and negotiating with health plans

    Main Takeaways:

    • Ownership of your data is essential — know your utilization metrics and communicate your story clearly

    • Value-based care cannot succeed with primary care alone; specialists and ancillary providers must be included

    • Contracts influence all parts of an organization, not just payment; thorough review is critical

    • Collaboration across disciplines and sharing actionable data drives better outcomes

    • Advocating for your organization requires persistence and strategic negotiation with health plans

    Notable Quotes:

    • "So it's very incumbent upon you to tell your story in your way. Don't let someone else tell your story." — Josephine Wilton

    • "Primary care cannot do it alone. You need cardiology, endocrinology, podiatry, everyone involved, and they typically haven't so they're contributing to the total cost. They're seeing different needs of the patients than the other providers." — Josephine Wilton

    Resources Mentioned:

    • National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA)

    • Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)

    • National Academy for State Health Policy

    • Milliman

    Connect with the Guest:
    Josephine Wilton, MHA
    Chief Strategy Officer, Hullanta Consulting
    hullantaconsulting.com

    Connect with The Mental Health Evolution:

    • Website: mentalhealthevolution.com

    • Instagram: @mentalhealthevolution

    • LinkedIn: Mental Health Evolution Podcast

    • Facebook: Mental Health Evolution Podcast

    Music Credit: Music by Zach Harrison

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    22 mins
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