Just in time for Halloween, the news hit that Kanye West gifted his wife a hologram of her late father as a 40th birthday surprise. Is this the best or worst present ever? And should we be treating this as a weird headline about those crazy celebrities, or as a wakeup call for us all?

Elaine Kasket, psychologist and author of All the Ghosts in the Machine: The Digital Afterlife of Your Personal Data (2020) talks to Patrick Stokes, philosopher based at Deakin University in Australia and author of Digital Souls: A Philosophy of Online Death (2021) about the massive societal issues raised by Kim's milestone birthday gift.

More context:

Kim's tweet about 'the most thoughtful gift of a lifetime', where you can watch the hologram delivering its message

Tamara's Kneese's article on Slate about Herman Cain and the problems with tweeting after death

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