Ok team, with the current workloads for Chris and I we just haven't got the time to seriously sit in a room with all the associated preparations to make this thing as good as it needs to be. So between the books, the start-ups and leading our own respective ministries we've just found ourselves very pressed for time. So short-term we're going to pause Dead Elephants.

You can contact us on our discord channel, https://discord.gg/CCkHBfd52A

Or we both have websites and socials you can get us on! We love you guys and when our time free's up we'll be back behind the microphone.

This episode does though feature a genetically augmented Steven McAlpine, did you know he runs! Anyway let's talk about the future of Church. A Quick note there were some Audio issues, so Duncan's voice isn't clear, apologies, the conversation surprisingly is still really good!

Either way it does feature a dark brooding Steven McAlpine sharing some of the insights from his latest book Future Proof which is literally about the future of the church. A Quick note there were some Audio issues, so Duncan's voice isn't clear, apologies, the conversation surprisingly is still really good!

We are talking about Duncan's new book, it's been 10 years but he's back in the writing saddle and it's closer to being finished than anyone could believe.

This Episode there's a surprising revelation. Duncan after 10 years is back with another book! He's only 10,000 words from finishing, that should be fine....right?! Either way he'll have to go Full Phoenix Rising.

Today we burrow in to practicalities of what it looks like to be here to love, unpacking more of Chris' book in the hopes that we can all be a little more lovely. Perhaps releasing a picture book so Duncan can join in the fun.

This week Chris and Duncan talk books. Things that Chris has written and a protracted explanation of love. That we are here to love which is also co-incidently the title of the book. So you can be hear to love, did you see the play on words. Anyway if you want to keep the conversation going, don't do it on social media join us on discord!!!

https://discord.gg/7JDPFaJ5Et

What does the next season of leadership look like for the church? Where are we going and how do we be the most emotional stable leaders possible.