Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo.

In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly.

The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, and why so many people in this space seem to be pulling in different directions.

Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother also jumps in for part of the discussion, adding his thoughts on skywatches, CE5-style claims, evidence, and where the community should draw the line between open-mindedness and belief.

The show finishes with discussion around Vanguard, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, whistleblower support, and what kind of questions the community should be asking next.

A loose, honest and wide-ranging UFO roundtable, with plenty of disagreement, humour and big questions.

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Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years.

Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and recent comments from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, who acknowledged that NASA has captured imagery it still cannot explain.

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Dr. Phil McGraw’s early access to the files and his White House advisory connection
An unknown object tracked near the Pantex nuclear weapons facility in 2015
Military Range Fouler reports from 2019 and 2020
The classified 1949 Los Alamos green fireball conference
Early Project Sign analysis
CIA and Project Blue Book documents
What is genuinely interesting, what may be prosaic and what is simply older material being repackaged

Does Release 4 move the story forward, or are we still waiting for the evidence that changes the conversation?

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Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community.

In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing.

Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fresh Freedom, Eric Burlison’s comments on a confirmed 1952 MIT Lincoln Lab reel-to-reel audio file, and Stephen Greer’s call for a global bypass of the US disclosure process.

Plus, Andy answers listener questions on soft disclosure, crash retrievals, China and Russia’s silence, the Legacy Program, David Grusch, and whether the public is being dragged through another cycle of “soon.”

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Jason Samosa joins me for part one of a huge conversation tracing the UFO topic from the post-war era through Roswell, Cold War secrecy, private industry, religious influence, and the early roots of disclosure resistance.

We discuss claims around Nazi technology, Operation Paperclip, why the post-World War II national security state created the perfect conditions for secrecy, what Roswell may represent in the wider story, and whether UFO secrecy was ever as simple as “the government knows aliens are real.”

Jason also explains why the modern disclosure debate may involve more than classified files and recovered craft, with competing factions, private power, religious framing, and narrative control all playing a role.

Part two continues with a deeper dive into the Collins Elite, demonic interpretations of the phenomenon, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement.

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Jason Samosa returns for part two of our huge conversation, as we move deeper into the Collins Elite, religious interpretations of the UFO phenomenon, demonic narratives, alien deception, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement.

We discuss whether some within government and intelligence circles may have viewed the phenomenon through a biblical or occult lens, how that belief system could influence secrecy, and why apocalyptic predictions and “something is coming” narratives can shape the way people behave.

Jason also gives his thoughts on To The Stars Academy, the hybrid narrative, competing factions around disclosure, and whether the battle over UFO transparency is really a battle over who gets to control the story.

A wide-ranging second half covering some of the strangest and most controversial threads in the modern UFO conversation.

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Andy is joined by Pavel from Psicoactivo Podcast to discuss claims that the US government successfully lured or baited UAP during a classified operation.

They examine what the recently released files actually establish, whether officials have developed methods for attracting mysterious orbs, and what may still be hidden from the public.

Also discussed: Matthew Brown’s argument for conditional amnesty within the alleged Legacy Program, the crimes he says must not be ignored, Ross Coulthart’s comments about unreleased images of possible structures on the Moon, alleged secret American bases in Antarctica, and questions surrounding Chris Mellon and those with potential knowledge of the Legacy Program.

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What if the biggest UFO mystery is not the craft, but the beings inside them?

Anthropologist Peter Skafish returns for a deep dive into the alleged occupants behind UAP. Are they biological beings, engineered avatars, artificial intelligence, or something stranger still?

We explore why witness reports of beings are often dismissed, even when the same witnesses are trusted on the craft themselves. Peter also examines the recurring humanoid forms, possible communication, motives, different reported types, and what another intelligence might reveal about life, culture and civilisation beyond humanity.

Peter also discusses his role on the new UAP Scientific Advisory Council, the latest government file releases, the state of disclosure, and what may still remain hidden.

Perhaps the greatest question is no longer how these objects fly.

It is who, or what, is operating them.

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Andy and Pavel return to break down the latest developments surrounding the US government’s UFO disclosure push.

Dan Farah claims another tranche of evidence could arrive within weeks, with “next-level extraordinary stuff” potentially being released before the end of the year. Meanwhile, Dr Phil was reportedly given early access to the latest UFO files alongside a handwritten message from President Trump: “Have fun with this.” Is Dr Phil being positioned as a mainstream messenger for disclosure, or are people reading too much into it?

Also discussed: the revised UAP Disclosure Act amendment, the mysterious Reality Transparency Act, David Grusch’s rapidly closing 90-day window, Jeff Nuccitelli joining Vanguard, Ross Coulthart’s interest in the controversial CARET documents, Chris Bledsoe’s fork experiment, billionaire access to alleged UFO secrets, and what may really be happening on the Moon.

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