On this episode, the guys discuss the importance of sabbaticals. Listen along as they talk about how they take time to unwind, and why making time to disconnect is crucial as a leader.

Jump to 2:10 to hear about the importance of taking time to unwind as a leader, and how the guys unwind.

Jump to 6:20 to hear about the purpose behind taking time away from work.

Jump to 9:10 to hear how Alex has taken a break from work via family vacations & a mini sabbatical, and how Jeff is bad at taking time to disconnect.

Jump to 17:01 to hear about various approaches to sabbaticals that Alex has come in contact with over the years, and how it takes Jeff a while to get into “vacation mode”.

Jump to 21:47 to hear about why being intentional about disconnecting is important, and if the guys have any tips/tricks on how to do that successfully.

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