Back in August 2007 – the murder of Sophie Lancaster ‘shook the nation’ – in part, because of the savagery of the assault that her and her boyfriend Rob Maltby endured – but equally because of the young age of the offenders. The case was treated as a hate crime and nearly 20 years later there are still questions around whether youth violence could ever be eradicated.

Dermot is joined by criminologist and expert in hate crimes Professor Jon Garland from the University of Surrey to understand where youth violence still exists and if hate crime can be prevented.

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