Where does freedom of religion end and freedom from discrimination begin? In 2019, one trustee's incendiary remarks sent shockwaves across the Toronto Catholic District School Board. Michael Del Grande argued that if Toronto Catholic schools were to protect queer and trans people from discrimination, then they should do the same for pedophiles and cannibals. His comments and the ensuing legal battle put a spotlight on the ideological divide around queer and trans inclusion. Teachers, students, parents and politicians are locked in a fierce debate over the future of Ontario's Catholic schools. Who is really shaping the conversation on sex and gender? Does queer and trans inclusion infringe on freedom of religion? Co-hosts Matt Nethersole and Tiff Lam explore how human rights, sexuality, gender, religion and politics are colliding in Ontario's Catholic schools and beyond.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.