The Rev. Shawna Bowman is an artist, a poet, community organizer, and the pastor of Friendship Presbyterian Church on Chicago's Northwest side.

In part one, we discuss Friendship's journey toward affordable housing partnership; the benefits of community longevity; and the delicate balance of religious authenticity and communal presence.

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The Rev. ⁠Brady Radford⁠ is a pastoral counselor, therapist, and consultant in Atlanta who works across the United States with individuals, couples, and organizations promoting self-awareness and healing.

In part two of our conversation, we share two favorite stories: one entitled, “You're Going to Be All Right, Brady Radford”; and Sara share one of her milestones, crying in front of other people. Vulnerabilities. “These we place upon your altar, Lord.”

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The Rev. Brady Radford is a pastoral counselor, therapist, and consultant in Atlanta who works across the United States with individuals, couples, and organizations promoting self-awareness and healing.

In the first part of our conversation, we explore metaphors based on what is needed in this present moment - in the church and society. Also, a nod to The Wizard of Oz and Twister for all you classic movie fans.

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