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  • It Is Well - Refining - Jackson Wilson

    It Is Well - Refining - Jackson Wilson
    May 28 2026
    10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver;I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.Isaiah 48:101. What do I feel in the middle of suffering? The Groan2. What do I see in the middle of suffering?Discerning3. What is happening in the middle of suffering?3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.Romans 5:32 Count it all joy, my brothers,[b] when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.James 1:2-46 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.Philippians 1:6God is Refining10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver;I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.Isaiah 48:10Refining: to improve or purify something by removing unwanted elements or making small, precise adjustments.“I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.”MichelangeloGod’s love is a consuming fire3 Know therefore today that he who goes over before you as a consuming fire is the Lord your God.Deuteronomy 9:3“Safe?... Who said anything about safe? 'Course he isn't safe. But he's good. He's the King, I tell you.”C.S. Lewis (The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe)“The consuming fire of God is not the fire of a wild animal attacking us; it is the fire of a savior who loves us too much to leave us untouched.”God sees His children stuck, and will refine them until they’re free.In The Fire of God’s Refining Love:NOTHING OF VALUE IS LOSTKing Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold, whose height was sixty cubits[a] and its breadth six cubits. He set it up on the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon. 2 Then King Nebuchadnezzar sent to gather the satraps, the prefects, and the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the justices, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces to come to the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.Daniel 3:1-226 At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” 27 This phrase, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of things that are shaken—that is, things that have been made—in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, 29 for our God is a consuming fire.Hebrews 12:26-29We lose what we’ve tried to cover ourselves with.We lose what we’ve been bound up in.23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell bound into the burning fiery furnace.24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished and rose up in haste. He declared to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the fire?” They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.” 25 He answered and said, “But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”Daniel 3:23-25 Fear tells us that everything being broken off is a loss. The Gospel tells us that everything being broken off is gain.8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ Philippians 3:8NOTHING OF VALUE IS ADDEDThe Gospel doesn’t say, “Jesus makes life better.”The Gospel says, “Jesus is life.”THE VALUE OF JESUS IS REVEALED25 He answered and said, “But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”Daniel 3:25His love does not change; it cannot be made to alter; the furnace cannot scorch us, not a single hair of our head can perish; we are as safe in the fire as we are out of it.Charles Spurgeon
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  • It Is Well - Discerning Suffering - Jackson Wilson

    It Is Well - Discerning Suffering - Jackson Wilson
    May 21 2026
    12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.1 Corinthians 13:1233 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation.John 16:33When peace like a river, attendeth my wayWhen sorrows like sea billows rollWhatever my lot, thou hast taught me to sayIt is well, it is well, with my soulHoratio SpaffordThe same suffering that softens one heart can harden another—not because God changed, but because suffering reveals what we think about Him.Discerning SufferingDiscern: to detect with the eyes; a figure approaching through the fogSuffering has the ability to distort our vision.The problem isn’t suffering itself, or even the groan we feel in the suffering. The problem is most people look at the suffering but never learn to ask the right questions to discern what they are looking at.17 Now when Jesus came, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb four days. 18 Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off, 19 and many of the Jews had come to Martha and Mary to console them concerning their brother. 20 So when Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went and met him, but Mary remained seated in the house. 21 Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”John 11:17-2621 Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.John 11:2123 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”John 11:23-26Do you believe this?”John 11:26“If God were good, He would wish to make His creatures perfectly happy, and if God were almighty, He would be able to do what He wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, power, or both.”C.S. LewisGOD IS GOODOh, how abundant is your goodness, which you have stored up for those who fear you and worked for those who take refuge in you, in the sight of the children of mankind!Psalm 31:19Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.James 1:17ASSUMPTIONS WE MUST QUESTION:“If God is good, He will prioritize my comfort”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering has the ability to take away true comfort.Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.2 Corinthians 1:3-4“If God is good, then He owes me an explanation”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering has the ability to change who He is.Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.James 1:17“If God is good, then He shouldn’t allow suffering”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering is beyond is fatherly care.Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!Matthew 7:9-11QUESTIONS WE MUST ASK OURSELVES:What am I feeling?What story am I living?Is that story true?What is true?The cross helps us see in the darkAt the cross, ultimate suffering and ultimate goodness are not separate realities. Both can exist together.
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    51 mins
  • It Is Well - The Groan - Casey Bush

    It Is Well - The Groan - Casey Bush
    May 14 2026
    “The Groan”Why does suffering hurt so badly?”TEACHING TEXT - Romans 8:22-23 22 For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.Job 1:1-3 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil. 2 There were born to him seven sons and three daughters. 3 He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, and 500 female donkeys, and very many servants, so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the east.Suffering is an ache from being banished.Genesis 2:25 25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.Genesis 3:1-7 The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the Lord God had made. One day he asked the woman, “Did God really say you must not eat the fruit from any of the trees in the garden?” 2 “Of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,” the woman replied. 3 “It’s only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, ‘You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.’” 4 “You won’t die!” the serpent replied to the woman. 5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.” 6 The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too. 7 At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves.Groaning is a deep, wordless, inward expression of pain, distress, or intense longing for relief and redemption.Our spirit groans for home.Romans 8:22-23 22 For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.John 11:17 17 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days. John 11:19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother.John 11:32 32 When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.” 33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. 34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. 35 Jesus wept.Grief isn’t the absence of faith, its a symptom of suffering2. Jesus entered our groaningJohn 1:14 “and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Luke: 22:42 “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from me; nevertheless not my will, but Yours be done.”Job 1:21 “the Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”Psalm 34:8 Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good; Blessed is the man who trusts in Him!”Sometimes we have to pray through confusion. Psalm 13 O Lord, how long will you forget me? Forever? How long will you look the other way? How long must I struggle with anguish in my soul, with sorrow in my heart every day? How long will my enemy have the upper hand? Turn and answer me, O Lord my God! Restore the sparkle to my eyes, or I will die. Don’t let my enemies gloat, saying, “We have defeated him!” Don’t let them rejoice at my downfall. 5 But I trust in your unfailing love. I will rejoice because you have rescued me. 6 I will sing to the Lord because he is good to me.Psalm 136:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good! His faithful love endures forever.Jesus entered our suffering himself, therefore we can stand firm in knowing that He isn’t distant from your pain, and we can trust Him. 3. Jesus is our hope in the groaning.Matthew 11:28–30 “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me…For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”Hebrews 12:1 Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith…4.Eternity changes our groaning…Because eternity doesn’t end in suffering, it ends in restorationActs 7:55 But he,...
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