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  • It Is Well - Discerning Suffering - Jackson Wilson

    It Is Well - Discerning Suffering - Jackson Wilson
    May 21 2026
    12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.1 Corinthians 13:1233 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation.John 16:33When peace like a river, attendeth my wayWhen sorrows like sea billows rollWhatever my lot, thou hast taught me to sayIt is well, it is well, with my soulHoratio SpaffordThe same suffering that softens one heart can harden another—not because God changed, but because suffering reveals what we think about Him.Discerning SufferingDiscern: to detect with the eyes; a figure approaching through the fogSuffering has the ability to distort our vision.The problem isn’t suffering itself, or even the groan we feel in the suffering. The problem is most people look at the suffering but never learn to ask the right questions to discern what they are looking at.17 Now when Jesus came, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb four days. 18 Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off, 19 and many of the Jews had come to Martha and Mary to console them concerning their brother. 20 So when Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went and met him, but Mary remained seated in the house. 21 Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”John 11:17-2621 Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.John 11:2123 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”John 11:23-26Do you believe this?”John 11:26“If God were good, He would wish to make His creatures perfectly happy, and if God were almighty, He would be able to do what He wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, power, or both.”C.S. LewisGOD IS GOODOh, how abundant is your goodness, which you have stored up for those who fear you and worked for those who take refuge in you, in the sight of the children of mankind!Psalm 31:19Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.James 1:17ASSUMPTIONS WE MUST QUESTION:“If God is good, He will prioritize my comfort”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering has the ability to take away true comfort.Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.2 Corinthians 1:3-4“If God is good, then He owes me an explanation”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering has the ability to change who He is.Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.James 1:17“If God is good, then He shouldn’t allow suffering”Reality: Because God really is good, we can rest in the fact that no suffering is beyond is fatherly care.Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!Matthew 7:9-11QUESTIONS WE MUST ASK OURSELVES:What am I feeling?What story am I living?Is that story true?What is true?The cross helps us see in the darkAt the cross, ultimate suffering and ultimate goodness are not separate realities. Both can exist together.
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    51 mins
  • It Is Well - The Groan - Casey Bush

    It Is Well - The Groan - Casey Bush
    May 14 2026
    “The Groan”Why does suffering hurt so badly?”TEACHING TEXT - Romans 8:22-23 22 For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.Job 1:1-3 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil. 2 There were born to him seven sons and three daughters. 3 He possessed 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, and 500 female donkeys, and very many servants, so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the east.Suffering is an ache from being banished.Genesis 2:25 25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.Genesis 3:1-7 The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the Lord God had made. One day he asked the woman, “Did God really say you must not eat the fruit from any of the trees in the garden?” 2 “Of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,” the woman replied. 3 “It’s only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, ‘You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.’” 4 “You won’t die!” the serpent replied to the woman. 5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.” 6 The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too. 7 At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves.Groaning is a deep, wordless, inward expression of pain, distress, or intense longing for relief and redemption.Our spirit groans for home.Romans 8:22-23 22 For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.John 11:17 17 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days. John 11:19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother.John 11:32 32 When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.” 33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. 34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. 35 Jesus wept.Grief isn’t the absence of faith, its a symptom of suffering2. Jesus entered our groaningJohn 1:14 “and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Luke: 22:42 “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from me; nevertheless not my will, but Yours be done.”Job 1:21 “the Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”Psalm 34:8 Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good; Blessed is the man who trusts in Him!”Sometimes we have to pray through confusion. Psalm 13 O Lord, how long will you forget me? Forever? How long will you look the other way? How long must I struggle with anguish in my soul, with sorrow in my heart every day? How long will my enemy have the upper hand? Turn and answer me, O Lord my God! Restore the sparkle to my eyes, or I will die. Don’t let my enemies gloat, saying, “We have defeated him!” Don’t let them rejoice at my downfall. 5 But I trust in your unfailing love. I will rejoice because you have rescued me. 6 I will sing to the Lord because he is good to me.Psalm 136:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good! His faithful love endures forever.Jesus entered our suffering himself, therefore we can stand firm in knowing that He isn’t distant from your pain, and we can trust Him. 3. Jesus is our hope in the groaning.Matthew 11:28–30 “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me…For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”Hebrews 12:1 Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith…4.Eternity changes our groaning…Because eternity doesn’t end in suffering, it ends in restorationActs 7:55 But he,...
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    45 mins
  • Witness - The Witness Who Lingered - Ashley Bassoppo-Moyo

    Witness - The Witness Who Lingered - Ashley Bassoppo-Moyo
    Apr 30 2026


    John 20:14–18 (ESV)

    14 Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.” 16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.”She turned and said to him in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means Teacher). 17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” 18 Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”—and that he had said these things to her.


    5 Lessons of a Present Witness - and What They Reveal About God

    1) Keep Looking


    1 To you, O Lord, I lift up my soul.

    2 O my God, in you I trust;

    let me not be put to shame;

    let not my enemies exult over me.

    3 Indeed, none who wait for you shall be put to shame;

    they shall be ashamed who are wantonly treacherous.

    4 Make me to know your ways, O Lord;

    teach me your paths.

    5 Lead me in your truth and teach me,

    for you are the God of my salvation;

    for you I wait all the day long.

    Psalm 25:1-5 (ESV)

    God reveals Himself to those who keep seeking Him.

    John 20:11 (ESV)
    11 But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she wept she stooped to look into the tomb.

    Jeremiah 29:13 (ESV)

    You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

    Psalm 27:13–14
    “I believe that I shall look upon the goodness of the Lord… wait for the Lord…”

    2) Don’t Hold Back

    God draws near to the humble and those who know they need Him

    John 20:13 (ESV)
    ….Woman, why are you weeping?..

    Psalm 34:18
    “The Lord is near to the brokenhearted…”

    “I believe that I shall look upon the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living!

    Wait for the Lord; be strong, and let your heart take courage; wait for the Lord!”

    Psalm 27:13–14 (ESV)


    Psalm 25:1 (ESV)

    To you, O Lord , I lift up my soul.


    T.Y.O.L.I.L.U.M.S.

    Psalm 25:1


    3) Jesus is Nearer Than You Think

    God meets us where our hearts remain open to Him

    John 20:14 (ESV)
    she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus.

    Isaiah 65:24 (ESV)
    Before they call I will answer; while they are yet speaking I will hear.


    4) Don’t Be Surprised When He Meets You

    God sees you and is drawing you out

    John 20:15
    “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?”

    Psalm 40:2
    “He drew me up from the pit of destruction…”

    5) Lean in for His Voice

    God reveals Himself personally. He knows and calls you by name!

    John 20:16
    “Mary.”

    Isaiah 43:1
    “I have called you by name…”

    This is what happens when you encounter a God like this.
    This is what happens to those who linger in His presence.

    You discover a God who reveals Himself.
    A God who draws near to the humble.
    A God who meets open hearts.
    A God who sees you and draws you out.
    And a God who knows you and calls you by name.
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    48 mins
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