“We try to help the sellers understand what the buyer's long-term vision is, what changes they expect to make, and over what period of time, because all of these things have implications on the business but also on emotions.” – Jonathan Baker The finer details of this episode:Overview of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) in the creative agency sector.Importance of preparation for agency owners considering M&A.Insights on valuation factors influencing agency sales.Discussion on the current M&A landscape and market trends.The significance of maintaining clean financial records for M&A readiness.Exploration of deal structures and their implications, including Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs).The role of agency owners post-acquisition and the need for clear communication with buyers.Timing considerations for initiating the M&A process.The impact of economic changes on agency valuations and buyer interest.Recommendations for agency owners to proactively prepare for potential sales. Episode resources:Summit Virtual CFO by Anders website: https://www.summitcpa.net/Love our content? Sign up for our newsletter: https://www.summitcpa.net/summit-newsletterDigital Dollars and Cents: A Virtual CFO’s Playbook to help Digital Companies Create a Financial Roadmap to Success, is now an audio book! Download it here: https://vcfo.summitcpa.net/ddcConnect with Jonathan here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandavidbaker/Check out Punctuation here: https://punctuation.com/ Timestamps: Welcome to the Creative Agency Success Show (00:00:00)Introduction to the podcast's purpose and focus on agency owners looking to scale. Discussion on M&A Preparation (00:00:15)Insights from Jonathan Baker about the importance of preparation for mergers and acquisitions. M&A Landscape Insights (00:00:39)Hannah reflects on the evolving trends in the M&A landscape and its implications for clients. Importance of Understanding M&A (00:01:13)Discussion on how understanding the M&A process can aid clients in their decision-making. Preparation Equals Easier Transition (00:01:39)Jimmy emphasizes that being well-prepared leads to a smoother M&A process and better outcomes. Introduction of Jonathan Baker (00:02:52)Jonathan Baker shares his background and expertise in helping firms prepare for M&A. Jonathan's M&A Journey (00:04:07)Jonathan recounts his personal experience with M&A, highlighting its complexities and emotional aspects. Valuation Nuances in M&A (00:06:19)Discussion on non-financial factors influencing valuation in the M&A process. Timing for M&A Conversations (00:07:51)Jonathan advises when clients should start preparing for M&A, ideally 3-4 years in advance. Post-Sale Involvement (00:09:22)Exploration of the buyer's perspective on post-sale involvement and its implications for sellers. Preventative Maintenance in M&A (00:11:33)Strategies to help owners navigate the transition and maintain business integrity post-acquisition. Deal Structure Non-Negotiables (00:14:01)Jonathan outlines his strong recommendations against certain deal structures, particularly ESOPs. Understanding ESOP Risks (00:15:07)Discussion on the potential pitfalls of employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs) in M&A. Navigating ESOP to M&A (00:18:01)Jonathan shares the challenges and processes of transitioning from an ESOP to an M&A deal. Preparing for M&A (00:19:11)Advice on steps companies should take to prepare for a potential acquisition. Importance of Accurate Financials (00:21:20)Emphasis on maintaining clean financials to facilitate smoother due diligence during M&A. Understanding Accrual Basis Accounting (00:22:01)Importance of running financials on an accrual basis for effective M&A preparation. Trends in M&A Post-COVID (00:22:57)Discussion on inflated valuations post-COVID and current market dynamics affecting M&A. Current Market Conditions for Sellers (00:24:24)Analysis of the current M&A landscape and advice for potential sellers. The COVID Boom and M&A Opportunities (00:24:49)Reflections on the opportunities presented during the COVID boom for agencies. Fun Question About Brewery Towns (00:25:17)A light-hearted discussion on top microbrewery towns in the U.S. Cultural Significance of Local Breweries (00:26:26)Exploration of how local breweries reflect community identity and culture. Contacting Jonathan for M&A Insights (00:27:54)Information on how listeners can reach out for M&A advice and brewery recommendations. Conclusion of the Episode (00:28:05)Wrap-up of the episode and appreciation for Jonathan’s insights on M&A.