Interview 4 - Mandy Nolan and Ellen Briggs Tune into a rapid fire chat with the authors of the book and hit show: 'Women like us', Mandy Nolan and Ellen Briggs. In an hilarious look at gender stereotypes, parenting, comedy coaching and writing, Stella, Mandy and Ellen 'rip the band aid off' our changing cultural norms. Mandy has coached over 1,500 people in the comic arts ("Yes and five of them are working" she quips) including Ellen who was writing a book at the time that was "getting funnier". That was the beginning of a beautiful friendship and Women Like Us, now in it's fifth year. It's not always easy to fathom the years of refining, testing, failing and succeeding that results in a truly funny - and what seems like an 'off the cuff', spontaneous comedy routine. Mandy reckons it took her a decade before she hit her straps. Ellen was dead against doing stand up, but delights in 'making people angry', leaving her nowhere to go but up with her audience - there's no people pleasing without some kind of human sacrifice! In a classic moment during the interview, Stella opens the topic matter up to more weighty issues like: what's sexy about middle age and the disproportionately small number of women in comedy ,which they all get right down to. But not before Ellen shatters the more serious tone by announcing: "Before we do that, I thought my drink would last longer?" Stage and audience crack up with Mandy suggesting: "Sounds like the title for the next book!" Don't forget to check out the Stellavision website for forthcoming shows. To listen to all our podcasts and episodes, go to: Funny about books Hobson Words Come to Stella Kinsella Books for stockists, and the fascinating back stories on Stella's own publications.