After its hiatus, Just Conversations with Jamal and Nate is back! This episode, the pair interview Chris Kerr, Executive Director of the Ignatian Solidarity Network, as well as Clarissa Aljentera, Director of Education for Justice, and AJ Rowe, ISN's Digital Communications Coordinator and the editor of the show.

Live from the Ignatian Family Teach-In for Justice in Washington, D.C., Nate and Jamal record this episode in front of a crowd of high school and college-level delegations from across the nation. The kickoff of season 2, Nate and Jamal take questions from their audience and hope to provide guidance towards many of the issues we face today when progressing in DEI work, and how that intersects with mission.

In this episode, the guys discuss their history of teaching and studying DEI+A throughout their careers, touching on both the roadblocks that they frequently encounter, as well as some strategies that they feel have been effective in overcoming them.

June 19, otherwise known as Juneteenth, liberation day, and other names, commemorates the official nationwide enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation and what is largely accepted as the end of the American Civil War. This episode, the guys discuss the cultural and contemporary relevance of the holiday well over 100 years after its occurrence, and dive into why the holiday's unofficial title of "liberation day" may, indeed, be misleading.

In the wake of the tragedy that was the Buffalo shooting, Nate and Jamal take a step back to discuss resilience and healing when confronted with the reality of racially motivated violence in the world around us.

On today's very special episode, we welcome our first guest to the show - Dr. Deborale Richardson-Phillips, the VP of DEI at St. Ignatius Cleveland with over 20 years of experience in the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion space. She holds a Doctorate of Philosophy and Human Development and a Masters in Public Administration from the University of Delaware, a Batchelor of Arts from Salem State University, a Human Resources Certificate and is a proud member of Delta Sigma Theta. The three explore her career and education path, and ultimately hope to highlight her journey as a Black woman in education.

Today, Jamal and Nate discuss the importance of self-reflection as a necessary component of Anti-Racism. It's a process that often makes us deeply uncomfortable, but the amount of personal growth that can come as a result of this discomfort cannot be understated.