After almost 50 years as one of the world's leading environmental activists, John Seed has started to see an encouraging shift: "Caring about the Earth isn't just for hippies and pagans," he says. "More and more people are moving from having these ideas to exploring what we can do about them." In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with the founder of the Rainforest Information Centre and co-author of Think Like a Mountain about his ongoing commitment to serving as a tireless steward of our planet and all its inhabitants. Give a listen to this inspiring conversation exploring: the illusion of separation underlying the environmental crisis; experiential ecology, or "the work that reconnects"; engaged Buddhism and activism as a spiritual practice; Joanna Macy's renowned despair and empowerment work; waking up a culture in denial; transforming numbness into energy and action; creating a container for safely witnessing what's going on; ceremony and bringing the sacred into our activism; the Council of All Beings practice; gratitude; a guided experience of "the cosmic walk"; Thomas Berry and the call for a creation story that unites us all; and more. Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.