In an era where many of us feel the fabric of community fraying, Rev. Peggy Clarke and DRE Jil Novenski engage in a rich discussion on reimagining our engagement in religious and societal structures. This episode is not just a conversation; it's a call to rediscover our roles within collective spaces and enact meaningful change. The dialogue delves into the transition from a consumer model defined by individualism to engaged, interdependent citizen models that can promote both accountability and community within our churches.

Rev. Peggy and Jil dissect the existing paradigms—subject, consumer, and citizen—revealing the intricacies of each and the urgent need for change. They imagine churches as havens for the practice of genuine, collaborative humanity in a world teetering on the brink of authoritarianism. Part of the mission of disrupting church is to remake our church communities as a tapestry of relationships built on need, reciprocity, and a beacon of communities woven together through love and resilience. And this is where we start.

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