Folding Towels - A Podcast for Massage Therapists with Jackie and David

By: Jackie Kerin and David Clayton
  • Summary

  • Jackie Kerin and David Clayton met over a massage table in Adelaide (Australia) back in 2015 - now they bring their quirks, and passion for the industry to this brand-new podcast. Discussing all the things they never told you about in massage school - complex cases, difficult customers, maintaining boundaries, administration, being in business and making decisions, and the never-ending pile of laundry. Most importantly, staying passionate to do what you actually trained to do and love. Folding towels is the massage class you wish you could take; with all the questions you wish you'd asked.
    Jackie Kerin and David Clayton
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  • Episode 077: Massage Meets Research: Building an Evidence Base for Massage
    Nov 19 2024
    In this enlightening episode of the Folding Towels Podcast, Jackie and David dive deep into the world of massage therapy research with three inspiring guest speakers: Rona Moore, Dr. Jan Douglass, and Dr. Sarah Fogarty. Together, they discuss how therapists can engage with research, the value of case studies, the limitations of traditional research paradigms, and the growing recognition of massage as a legitimate and evidence-based healthcare practice. Whether you're a seasoned therapist or just starting out, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge to inspire your journey into the research world. Rona Moore Rona kicks off the conversation by highlighting the many ways therapists can engage with research without needing a formal academic pathway. She explains the value of small-scale research projects like case studies and quality improvement initiatives in shaping practice and contributing to the broader massage community. Rona introduces concepts such as grey literature, which includes blogs, trade journals, and conference posters, as accessible platforms for sharing insights. Her passion for fostering curiosity and critical thinking in therapists shines through, making her insights both practical and motivating. Dr. Jan Douglass Dr. Jan Douglass delves into the complexities and limitations of traditional research paradigms, particularly for chronic conditions and massage therapy. She discusses how the reliance on randomized controlled trials often overlooks the nuanced, individualized nature of therapeutic work. Drawing on her vast experience with lymphatic research and global health initiatives, Dr. Douglass explains the importance of exploring alternative research designs that capture real-world efficacy. Her call to embrace practice-based evidence and case studies is a compelling reminder that meaningful research is not one-size-fits-all. Dr. Sarah Fogarty Dr. Sarah Fogarty brings the episode to a close with her firsthand experiences as a massage researcher with over 40 publications. She shares her journey into research, highlighting the challenges and rewards of building a career in an underfunded and emerging field. Dr. Fogarty emphasizes the role of mixed-methods research in capturing both quantitative outcomes and the therapeutic relationship at the heart of massage. She also provides practical advice for therapists interested in research, from conducting case studies to navigating ethics and grant applications. Her passion for advancing massage therapy through evidence-based insights is both inspiring and actionable. ** Support the Show ** If you have gotten value from the show, consider sending a small token of appreciation our way: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** Connect with Jackie and David *** Do you want to reach out to us? ⁠⁠⁠Head to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and fill in the contact form. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foldingtowelspodcast.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/FoldingTowelsPodcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/foldingtowels_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc
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  • Episode 076: The How, Why and When of Discounting
    Nov 12 2024

    In this episode, David and Jackie dive into the complex topic of discounting for massage therapists, discussing when it makes sense and how to avoid undervaluing your services. They share practical strategies, like referral discounts, loyalty programs, and limited-time promotions, to attract clients without compromising your worth. David recounts real-life examples where thoughtful discounting helped his business, while Jackie emphasizes the importance of clear goals and strategy. They highlight the risks of platforms like Groupon, which can attract deal-chasing clients rather than loyal ones. By communicating openly with clients and using tools like email marketing, they suggest ways to build a strong client base without relying heavily on discounts. This episode offers valuable insights for therapists wanting to grow sustainably, focusing on strategies that enhance value over cutting costs.

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    If you have gotten value from the show, consider sending a small token of appreciation our way:

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    *** Connect with Jackie and David *** Do you want to reach out to us? ⁠⁠⁠Head to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and fill in the contact form.

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    Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc


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  • Episode 075: Insights on Working Whilst Pregnant
    Nov 5 2024

    Jackie and David dive into the realities of working as a massage therapist while pregnant. Drawing on Jackie’s personal experiences and David’s insights, they explore the unique challenges pregnancy brings to the profession, from managing morning sickness and adapting work routines to handling client communication and planning maternity leave.

    Did you know that Jackie was still massaging even in the early stages of labour? With candid stories, practical advice, and a touch of humour, this episode sheds light on how to maintain well-being and professional standards through a life-changing time.

    Whether you're self-employed or working within a clinic, tune in for thoughtful guidance and relatable insights that will help you navigate the path of balancing pregnancy and practice with confidence.

    ** Support the Show **

    If you have gotten value from the show, consider sending a small token of appreciation our way:

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/foldingtowelspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    *** Connect with Jackie and David *** Do you want to reach out to us? ⁠⁠⁠Head to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and fill in the contact form.

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foldingtowelspodcast.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Theme Music: Simon Pettersson "All Alone" (2020), Licensed use through Audio Hero Inc

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