Episodes

  • S2 Ep5 - The Military Industrial Complex - The Finale

    S2 Ep5 - The Military Industrial Complex - The Finale
    Feb 26 2024

    Michelle and David continue the conversation on how the Military's actions and inaction further cement its place in the complex of industry. This final episode brings things together and adds some last thoughts. Stay tuned for next season and special bonus episodes in the works.

    Episode Sources:

    https://theintercept.com/2021/08/26/afghanistan-america-failures/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/ https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/unexploded-american-bombs-killing-children-laos https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/ https://thewashingtonstandard.com/as-ukranians-get-killed-displaced-weapons-companies-reaping-record-profits-off-their-suffering/ How to Hide an Empire by Daniel Immerwahr

    Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky

    The End of the Myth by Greg Grandin

    Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad

    A People’s History of the United States by Howard Zinn

    Family of Secrets by Russ Baker

    The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins

    Killing Hope by William Blum
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    29 mins
  • S2 Ep4 Legacy of Ashes

    S2 Ep4 Legacy of Ashes
    Nov 21 2022

    In this episode Michelle and David do a deep dive into the assassination of John F. Kennedy. This well researched and beautifully explained episode covers motives and methods, backstories of key player, and inconsistencies in the investigations. Whether you have had limited exposure or if you are a true JFK expert, this episode has something for you. Email the hosts with questions and comments

    Resources:

    JFK and the Unspeakable James W Douglass American Exception by Aaron Good Brothers David Talbot The Devil’s Chessboard David Talbot Death is Just Around the Corner Podcast JFK 4 part series (I listened on youtube)

    TrueAnon Podcast 6 Part JFK series (most episodes are on their patreon)

    Oliver Stone's JFK

    American Exception Podcast JFK series (an ongoing project, at the time of recording there were at least 11 episodes in the series)

    Family of Secrets Russ Baker

    https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm (EXTENSIVE resource)

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • S2 Ep 3 - The Truth Will Set You Free

    S2 Ep 3 - The Truth Will Set You Free
    Jul 17 2022

    Michelle and David tackle the CIA and how, through the Dulles brothers, the U.S. toppled governments and put in place leadership favorable to the United States.

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    Email them at mailto:expriationdatethepodcast@gmail.com

    Follow the show on twitter: www.twitter.com/expirationpod

    Resources for this episode are:

    Killing Hope by William Blum The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government Book by David Talbot https://open.spotify.com/episode/5t9jjYOblngt1Xf51I7uqd?si=nsAAEGHKSfCGv67z8a5Sgg&utm_source=copy-link ( in this episode, the hosts interview Matt Taibbi. I quote him in the story but do not say it. The conclusion about the Trump activism is his.) https://open.spotify.com/episode/1XcnRQHPtKexudT7r0kzxB?si=eUn0RXfpRbuFRojalBpV6g&utm_source=copy-link https://open.spotify.com/episode/5xga09jL3RvQKx0vPdt3AI?si=A0HaEI5XS0CgAWo3BMinUQ&utm_source=copy-link
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    51 mins
  • S2 Ep 2 - The Dulles Brothers

    S2 Ep 2 - The Dulles Brothers
    May 12 2022
    In the first of a multi-episode series on the Intelligence wing of the Military Industrial Complex, more specifically, the CIA. Michelle and David start by setting the stage with the Dulles brothers and their full impact on the intelligence community. All resources are listed below. Support the Expiration Date Podcast by being a Patreon member at https://www.patreon.com/ExpirationDate Follow Expiration Date on Twitter @ExpirationPod Three part series on the Dulles Brothers:

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ragK8hvmjCMyRPRfUCjhX?si=UPPrLYXATh24zUTNf22Q_A&utm_source=copy-link

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3QSkENg5zGjzW6fIfVN41y?si=EZMxXjICR-2AgJueTaqUAw&utm_source=copy-link https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qTd9nrbfedW1bfhyJUpFR?si=gsOC75P4SmaNgMVkqm-b9g&utm_source=copy-link The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24723229-the-devil-s-chessboard The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles & Their Secret World War by Stephen Kinzer https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17286725-the-brothers Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put it in the White House & What Their Influence Means for America by Russ Baker https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4274612-family-of-secrets Misc Resources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Hawaiian_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lansing https://www.history.com/news/how-the-sinking-of-lusitania-changed-wwi
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    49 mins
  • S2 Ep 1 - The Lies We Believe

    S2 Ep 1 - The Lies We Believe
    Mar 28 2022

    Michelle and David are back for Season Two of Expiration Date. There is an updated logo but the same great reporting. This season is all about the Military Industrial Complex.

    In this first episode they provide an overview of the season as based on three specific wars. References are below. Feel Free to follow them on Twitter and Email them with any comments/feedback. Enjoy.

    References:

    https://theintercept.com/2021/08/26/afghanistan-america-failures/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/ https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/unexploded-american-bombs-killing-children-laos https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/ https://www.palestinechronicle.com/ghassan-kanafani-voice-of-palestine-1936-1972/ https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdDjHFr7/ https://thewashingtonstandard.com/as-ukranians-get-killed-displaced-weapons-companies-reaping-record-profits-off-their-suffering/ Season Source Books

    How to Hide an Empire by Daniel Immerwahr

    Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky

    The End of the Myth by Greg Grandin

    Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad

    A People’s History of the United States by Howard Zinn

    Family of Secrets by Russ Baker

    The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins

    Killing Hope by William Blum
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    39 mins
  • BONUS : The FBI Investigated

    BONUS : The FBI Investigated
    Jan 18 2022

    In this episode Michelle and David investigate the origins of the FBI. They discuss how, when, and why it was established, focuses of the organization, and ideas on why they operate as they do.

    As alway, references are listed below and if you have any questions, comments, or disagreements, email them at experiationdatethepodcast@gmail.com

    Thanks!

    https://www.fbi.gov/history/brief-history

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Palmer-Raids

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_the_Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation#Creation_of_FBI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

    https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro/new-left/cointel-pro-new-left-richmond-part-01-of-01/view

    https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/subs/testimony/040505-fbi-mueller.pdf

    https://innocenceproject.org/julius-jones-death-row-oklahoma-what-to-know/

    https://abc7chicago.com/mi-governor-kidnap-plot-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/10948197/

    http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/from-dragnet-to-cops-the-media-industry-reckons-with-a-long-history-of-glorifying-law-enforcement/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-fbi-cointelpro-progra_b_4375527

    https://digpodcast.org/2020/07/19/black-panther-party/

    https://www.ajc.com/news/victim-of-attempted-lynching-charged-with-assaulting-his-attackers/46G3GV2UTFGV5G3PNM3K26E65M/
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    42 mins
  • S1 Ep 9 - Duly Convicted

    S1 Ep 9 - Duly Convicted
    Oct 1 2021

    It is the season finale! This episode talks about what happens when you go to court and wraps up some hanging issues. Email us with questions/comments and check out our Patreon Page. Thanks for listening.

    References:

    law.cornell.edu/wex/jury_of_one%27s_peers#:~:text=This%20right%20can%20be%20found,jury.”%20See%20Impartial%20Jury.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-criminal-cases-actually-go-trial.html https://www.novalegalgroup.com/what-percentage-of-criminal-cases-go-to-trial/#:~:text=IT%20IS%20COMMONLY%20ACCEPTED%20THAT,%5D%2C%20EVER%20GO%20TO%20TRIAL. https://indefenseof.us/issues/processed/prosecuted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States (lead to source: BJS Staff. "FAQ Detail: What is the probability of conviction for felony defendants?". Bureau of Justice Statistics. Retrieved 21 January 2020.) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-8349_6k47.pdf https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/publications/youraba/2017/march-2017/panelists-call--i-batson--i--a-failure--offer-solutions/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/30/how-big-a-difference-does-an-all-white-jury-make-a-leading-expert-explains/ https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/62571376.pdf Explicit content warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f2iawp0y5Y https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/csi-is-a-lie/390897/ https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2010/oct/15/crime-labs-in-crisis-shoddy-forensics-used-to-secure-convictions/ https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/reversing-legacy-junk-science-courtroom https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/hollywood-police-a-deep-complicated-now-strained-relationship-1301211/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-are-wrongly-convicted-people-still-imprisoned-in-missouri/ https://man.fas.org/smedley.htm
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    31 mins
  • S1 Ep 8 - Land of the Free

    S1 Ep 8 - Land of the Free
    Aug 24 2021

    In this episode Michelle and David talk about the 13th amendment and prison labor. Check out the unedited version of this episode (with full craziness) at the Expiration Date Patreon Page.

    Here are the resources for the episode:

    https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xiii

    https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-4/section-2/

    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263
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    21 mins