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Experiencing Data w/ Brian T. O’Neill

Experiencing Data w/ Brian T. O’Neill

By: Brian T. O’Neill from Designing for Analytics
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Does the value of your insights, analytics, or automated intelligence product sometimes feel invisible to buyers and users? Does your product have impressive analytics and AI technology, but user adoption and sales still are not where you want them to be?

While it has never been easier to build data-driven products, why does it still seem so hard to build indispensable data products that users can't live without—and will gladly pay for?

I’m Brian T. O’Neill, and on Experiencing Dataa Listen Notes top 2% global podcast — I help founders and B2B software product leaders close the Invisible Intelligence Gap through solo episodes and interviews with leaders at the intersection of product management, UX design, analytics, and AI.

If you’re building analytics, BI, or automated intelligence (AI) products, this non-technical show will help you better connect your product to outcomes, value, and the human factors that still matter — even in the age of AI.

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Episodes
  • 196 - The Unique Challenges and Solutions to Selling API-based Analytics and Intelligence Products
    Jun 10 2026

    I've been seeing a recurring pattern with companies selling APIs, MCPs, data feeds, and other developer-focused AI products. While the technology is often sound if not impressive, sales momentum sometimes slows when prospects have to imagine how the product will create value in their own environment. My perspective on this is that the flexibility that makes these tools powerful can also make them harder to evaluate.

    Flexibility can adversely increase the Invisible Intelligence Gap, and I think certain types of AI-based solutions (LLM) may actually increase this because the boundaries of the product are often so much wider than ever before (if not invisible to the buyer). So, how to close this gap? Well, one way is to build a visual UI that showcases what’s possible with your API/feed/data solution. You take the buyer out of the conceptual space and make things concrete. So today, that’s what we dig into: when to consider adding a UI, how far you need to go with it, how you can use Copilot/AI agents to help customize these example implementations, and the benefits you might see.

    Highlights / Skip to:
    • The challenges of selling API-based analytics and AI products (0:56)
    • Why this topic matters right now (2:48)
    • The Invisible Intelligence Gap that may be slowing your sales (3:34)
    • Strategies for bridging the Invisible Intelligence Gap with a UI (user interface) layer (7:01)
    • Client case study: the impact and results you may see adding a UI on top of your technical product (14:05)
    • Signs that you should consider adding UI to your technical product (18:23)
    • Leveraging humans’ highly developed visual system to help potential customers see the full value of your product (26:24)
    • Conclusion (27:32)
    Links
    • Invisible Intelligence Gap
    • Azeem Azhar’s Exponential View (6/4/26 episode)
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    28 mins
  • 195 - Buyers Block: Why Your B2B Analytics or AI Product's POC Didn't Close
    May 26 2026

    It’s a common pattern for teams building B2B analytics and AI products: the proof-of-concept goes well, the buyers sound excited, and everyone assumes the deal is about to close—until it quietly stalls out. The assumption is usually that sales needs to follow up harder or marketing needs more enablement material. But often, the real issue is that the product itself cannot communicate its value without humans in the room explaining it.

    I call this the Invisible Intelligence Gap. Buyers may understand the promise during a guided demo, but once the sales engineers leave, customers are left trying to figure out workflows, use cases, trust concerns, integrations, and organizational fit on their own. This gets even harder with broad, general-purpose AI tools and chat-based interfaces that sometimes assume users already know what to ask.

    The solution isn’t simply shipping more features or training content. It’s designing products that clearly reveal their value, reduce customer effort, and continue selling themselves after the POC ends, and getting that design right starts with the right product strategy.

    Highlights/ Skip to:
    • First principles thinking - add sales effort or fix the product? (0:43)
    • How the POC phase supports sales efforts (3:28)
    • The role of the Invisible Intelligence Gap (5:38)
    • What is “buyer’s block” and how to avoid it (6:26)
    • Avoiding the “Two-Costs Model” and what that model is! (11:34)
    • Overcoming a stalled sales process (13:42)
    • Understanding the problem, users, outcomes, and boundaries (14:41)
    • Three product strategy moves you can make (17:50)
    • Always ask how customers are experiencing the product and if it sells itself (24:04)
    Links
    • Podcast: Ep. 189 The Invisible Intelligence Gap
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    27 mins
  • 194 - AI for BI: Juan Sequeda on Preparing Your Analytics to Work With LLMs
    May 12 2026

    If you’re hoping that adding AI to your analytics product or capabilities is going to unlock new revenue, sales, and greater user adoption, but you’re not sure what’s involved in this transformation, this episode is for you!

    Today, I’m talking with Juan Sequeda today, an expert in knowledge graphs and ontologies who most recently was Head of the AI lab at data.world, which was recently acquired by ServiceNow. Juan and I met while speaking at CDOIQ a few years ago, and after being on his former podcast “Catalogs and Cocktails.” (With a name like that, I naturally had him out to my local tiki bar while visiting Cambridge!)

    Talk-to-your-data products – effectively next-gen business intelligence applications – are a hot topic right now, and this has made much of Juan’s PhD work in semantics highly relevant right now as companies try to make analytics more user-friendly via natural language.

    Juan is clear that the starting point for this transformation isn’t the model or the UI, but actually the customer’s workflow—and that was like music to my ears! Analytics only matters when it drives action, so the real challenge is not answering more questions, but enabling better decisions and outcomes.

    A key theme is semantics, which, in product design language, I think of as making users’ mental models of their business or domain map logically to system and data models so that AI produces the right answers in the right context. Juan outlines a practical path to getting started with this: strong data modeling, a well-defined semantic layer, buy-vs-build considerations, and throughout, a constant focus on what the customer’s workflow and problem is.

    Highlights/ Skip to:

    • Juan Sequeda’s background (2:14)
    • Is AI for BI the way to go for proprietary analytics products? (4:30)
    • Bolted-on AI versus transformational AI, and what customers are doing with current reporting (8:26)
    • Knowing your product’s boundaries and when extending into adjacent customer workflows stops making strategic sense (14:46)
    • Setting proper expectations for non-technical founders around what AI can “answer” with analytics (18:43)
    • The role of customer problems in informing the prerequisite technology and data decisions (24:37)
    • What's the actual lift to add chat-with-your-data capabilities to a SaaS product: data foundation, semantic layer, and the build-vs-buy call (33:38)
    • Why Juan thinks every company should become “AI-native” (41:20)
    • AI might theoretically make for a better analytics UX, but are users ready to change their behavior or abandon the analytics tools they use now? (46:00)
    • How to follow Juan Sequeda (49:03)
    Links
    • Catalogs & Cocktails Podcast
    • Juan Sequeda’s LinkedIn
    • Juan Sequeda’s Substack
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    50 mins
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