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Experiencing Data w/ Brian T. O’Neill

Experiencing Data w/ Brian T. O’Neill

By: Brian T. O’Neill from Designing for Analytics
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Your B2B analytics product does the hard technical work. So why aren't sales and adoption keeping up?

I'm Brian T. O'Neill, and my podcast, Experiencing Data, is a Listen Notes top 2% global podcast for founders, CEOs, and product leaders at B2B analytics companies: the ones whose product should be winning deals on technical sophistication alone, but isn't.

Maybe competitors have caught up on features and prospects say you all look the same, so you end up competing on price. Maybe customers never discover your best features and use you "like Excel." Maybe your value is algorithmic, and buyers can't see what they'd be paying for—something I call the Invisible Intelligence Gap.

Through solo episodes and interviews with CEOs, founders, and the enterprise data leaders who buy these products, I draw on my work as a product designer and strategy consultant to help you translate technical complexity into commercial clarity: connecting what your data product does to the outcomes, value, and human factors that still matter, even in the age of AI.

Experiencing Data is the only non-technical show about why technically impressive products don't sell or get used, and what to do about it.

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Episodes
  • 204 - Showing ROI in 30 Minutes, Not Your AI: How Datalogz’s CEO Built a Sticky Enterprise Analytics Product
    Oct 6 2026

    Logan Havern's company, Datalogz, sits on top of an enterprise's BI platforms (Power BI, Tableau, Qlik, Databricks Genie, and the SharePoint spreadsheets nobody admits to) and finds the duplicated, conflicting, and unused reports that AI is now generating faster than anyone can clean up. At one large pharma customer, executives "talking to their data" get wrong answers and then argue with the data team, because they believe Claude over the humans. The product that fixes that, which Logan calls semantic intelligence, is the one he thinks makes Datalogz a multibillion-dollar company. However, this is not what he sells first—and this is the topic we dug into today on this episode of Experiencing Data.

    What Logan sells first is a 30-minute connection and a cost-savings business case finance can sign off on. That wedge took him a long time to find, and it sets him apart from other companies trying to sell “better AI answers” and “talk to your data” solutions. We also dove into the manual work [of 5-to-30-person admin teams] his product replaces, and my skepticism that usage data on a dashboard can tell you anything about whether it delivered value. If your analytics product's biggest value is also the hardest to explain, this one is for you.

    Links
    • datalogz.io
    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loganhavern/

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    43 mins
  • 203 - Engineering Is 6x Faster. Sales Isn't. Here's What Your Team Never Defined.
    Sep 17 2026

    What happens when your product team suddenly moves six times faster at delivering features, but your sales and business traction is unchanged? AI, and particularly AI for coding, has made it easier than ever to ship features, but faster development doesn’t automatically create better products or better outcomes. The real question is whether what you’re building changes anything for the people who buy, use, and benefit from your product.

    Today, I get into why AI evals and acceptance criteria measure the product, not its impact, and why your buyers are probably judging your POC on success metrics your team never wrote down. Toward the end, I make the concepts concrete by applying them to a fictional AI-powered pricing tool to show what defining quality looks like for both the fiscal buyer and the end user, and what to do with all that extra engineering velocity instead.

    Your goal? Better; not just faster.

    Links

    • Episode 192: Analytics Product Usage Does Not Equal Value
    • Episode 202: Surface Tension
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    41 mins
  • 202 - Surface Tension: The 5 Essential Control Surfaces to Make Your Analytics Product Sell Itself
    Sep 2 2026

    What makes an analytics or intelligence product indispensable when technical sophistication alone isn’t enough to drive adoption, renewals, or sales? Why do POCs stall, why does adoption stay flat, and why aren’t prospects nearly as excited about your (impressive) analytics tech as you are?

    It’s that the value never becomes obvious to the humans in the loop who do the buying, using, and justifying.

    In this episode, I provide a framework for identifying the personas (roles) and experiences that can turn sophisticated analytical capability into perceived value. We’ll explore the five essential control surfaces you’ll need to address in your product and why founders and product leaders need to look beyond technical development (e.g., the delivery of AI models, dashboards, MCP connectors, agentic capabilities, and traditional interfaces).

    I also examine the tensions that can emerge when incentives and goals for end users are not aligned with those of management and executive/fiscal buyers. Why does the efficiency ROI you sell to a management champion get read as a job threat to the operator/user whose adoption you need to succeed? I’ll answer this, plus the reasons AI can complicate those dynamics, how to prevent your product from creating an Invisible Intelligence Gap for customers, and why one past podcast guest’s “shipping the meter” matters much more than another feature. (That will also explain why I don’t think dashboards are dead in the age of AI.)

    Highlights / Skip to:

    • Short-term stakeholders you shouldn’t forget to satisfy (particularly during POCs/Demos) such as legal, compliance, and the game of defense “value be damned” they are playing (4:14)
    • Not every mouth is equally hungry: deciding which personas deserve the most product attention (8:23)
    • End users of your product such as developers, analysts, business users (often ICs) operating your product daily—and why the real bar is whether they would complain to the C-suite if your product went away (9:12)
    • How managers of ICs (e.g., sales directors, customer service managers, VPs of data, etc.) might need something very different than end users, and why the manager’s needs might be a threat to those very IC users. The 3-part fix? Making all parties look successful to their superiors; improving the lives of those stakeholders; and arming champions with the evidence fiscal buyers need (11:08)
    • The unique needs of executive and financial stakeholders who might have the most decision power while using your product the least (15:59)
    • Why “shipping the meter” and the Invisible Intelligence Gap decide whether your product survives the next budget cut (17:07)
    • The “AI Agent” as a “user” of your product: Why I think agents ride in a sidecar attached to humans and what you need to do to enable your customers and their AI agents to be successful (21:23)
    • Why figuring out what control surfaces/UIs/UXs you may need to improve is the easy part if you know what they are a response to (26:37)

    Links

    • 197 - Agentic AI Isn't a Moat for Analytics Products.This is. - My episode on viable moats for BI/Analytics products in the age of AI
    • The Invisible Intelligence Gap
    • Behavioral Signals CEO Rana Gujral on “Shipping the Meter” is in Episode 198
    • Need help identifying the 5 control surfaces in your product and satisfying the human users behind them? Schedule a free discovery call with me
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    31 mins
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