In the first of a two-part conversation, Peter and Andrew speak Philip Lymbery. Philip is Global Chief Executive Officer of the leading international farm animal welfare organisation, Compassion in World Farming, Visiting Professor at the University of Winchester and the President of Eurogroup for Animals, Brussels. He is an award-winning author, ornithologist, photographer, naturalist and self-confessed animal advocate. For 25 years Philip has worked extensively on animal welfare issues, wildlife and the environment. Peter and Andrew speak to Philip about some of the key global issues generated by our reliance on intensive farming practices. Some of the topics discussed in this episode include: • When and why was intensive factory farming introduced? • Why is animal protein mistakenly considered to pack a greater punch than plant protein? • The deliberately hidden costs of meat and how the consumer unwittingly pays for it three times. • The mass mechanisation of the industry devastating the peace and quiet of the countryside, caging animals and removing human involvement. • The grossly distorted economics that surround the factory farming industry. • Why aren’t Governments stepping in to help find another way? • The power of the meat lobbies. • How we are locked into a system that forces us to collude with our own destruction. • How factory farming underpins climate change, natural devastation, and global pandemics. • How industrial agriculture is stripping the soil of its biodiversity • The life of a factory-farmed chicken. • The gross misuse of anti-biotics on the intensive farming industry.