It's the long awaited second half of our Celestial Toymaker conversation, where Jess Jurkovic joins Giles, Gav and Richard to discuss 14th and 15th Doctor story The Giggle from the 60th Anniversary Specials.

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Jess is a brilliant pianist and has an extraordinary YouTube channel on which you can find his amazing The Dudley Simpson IS Doctor Who Project.

Gav's excellent YouTube series Terry Nation Army can be found here: https://youtube.com/user/Dalek6388.

Giles' book A History of the Universe in 21 Stars: (and 3 Imposters) can be found in all good bookshops and also here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Universe-21-Stars-Imposters/dp/1787394654/

Richard has another podcast with co-hosts Emily & Nicola, called "If It's Hurting, It's not Working" and it's a fun and informative look at work - why we work, how we work, and what makes a great job. Go to https://ifhurtnotwork.podbean.com/ and https://ifhurtnot.work for more.

The Something Who logo, which features prominently on all our cover art was designed for us by Bea Garrido. She's a really talented artist, who you can find by following this link: https://linktr.ee/beagarrido, where, among other artworks, you can buy prints of some remarkable paintings of characters from Doctor Who.