This month's guest is Elfie Tromp, a Dutch writer and performer. I discovered Elfie when I read her amazing essay in Guernica: "How Rick Owens Taught Me to Wear Love." Elfie is also a novelist and a poet with several books in Dutch, and she hosts an IGTV series called Dichter in Drag, where poets and drag queens share poetry and serve looks. 

This is one of my favorite interviews yet, because we start with fashion but cover so many more topics. Elfie told me about the trauma of wearing her first bra and the ways she’s broken free of traditional femininity since then. We discussed the dangers of cis hetero spaces and the liberating appeal of queer spaces and drag. She also told me how hearing voices in her childhood led her to join her aunt’s Wiccan coven, and that conversation led us on a tangent about our own beliefs around religion and spirituality.

Elfie's new boots are from OBSCUR.
The bras she gifted are from Barbara Gongini.
The lingerie brand that inspires her is la fille d'O.
You can follow Elfie @elfietromp.

You can follow me on Instagram @littleritualstarot and on twitter @tobeyward. The intro and outro music is Song of Sweetness by Potential Gospel. The podcast art is by Juliann Gates. This episode was mastered by Matt Fox.