• EP#130: On a journey of continuous reform with Dr Rachel Bacon and Professor Janine O’Flynn – part 2

  • Mar 3 2025
  • Length: 34 mins
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EP#130: On a journey of continuous reform with Dr Rachel Bacon and Professor Janine O’Flynn – part 2

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  • Returning for part 2 of our new ‘APS Reform in Action’ series, Dr Rachel Bacon and Professor Janine O’Flynn discuss how Australia is learning from other countries’ public service best practice – and vice versa.


    Wanting to do things better doesn’t always mean you have to re-invent the wheel. In this episode, Dr Rachel Bacon from the Australian Public Service Commission and Professor Janine O’Flynn from ANU Crawford School reveal lessons from overseas and introduce the concept of ‘radical incrementalism’ – making small improvements to achieve a larger goal.


    Host David Pembroke, CEO of contentgroup, also speaks to our guests about why effective collaboration will remain a key tool to responding to increasingly complex challenges.


    This series is produced in partnership with the Australian Public Service Commission.


    Key tips:

    1. Instead of aiming for radical change, look for small changes over time.
    2. If you want people to collaborate, you need to make it part of their performance assessment.
    3. Foster purpose and pride by looking at what works well.


    Show notes

    • APS Reform | Australian Government
    • The Cult of Collaboration in Public Policy | AJPA

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