Derek and John are back with our case notes for Daredevil Born Again Episode 2 "Optics". We're going into full spoiler filled detail once again, so make sure you've watched the episode before listening to our podcast.

Directed by Micheal Cuesta

Written by Matt Corman and Chris Ord

Daredevil Born Again Episode 2 Cast

• Charlie Cox - Matt Murdock/Daredevil
• Vincent D'Onofrio - Wilson Fisk
• Ayelet Zurer - Vanessa Fisk
• Zabryna Guevara - Sheila Rivera
• Clark Johnson - Cherry
• Genneya Walton - BB Urich
• Kamar de los Reyes - Hector Ayala

During each podcast we'll ask a question about each episode in our Daredevil Born Again Josie's Bar Quiz. You can send in your answers each week to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com At the end of the nine episode series the fellow Defenders with the most correct answers will be in with the chance of getting their hands on some Daredevil Born Again goodies. All questions will be updated on: https://www.tvpodcastindustries.com

Thank you so much for listening to our Daredevil Born Again Podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast through our website TV Podcast Industries.

If you would like to send any of your thoughts in please send the m to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com join us on facebook at Facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries or you can now record your thoughts for the podcast directly from our website tvpodcastindustries.com by clicking the “Send Voicemail” button.

We'll be back next week with our podcast on Daredevil Born Again Episode 3 we hope you'll join us.

Keep watching, Keep Listing and Keep Defending

John, Chris and Derek

Defenders on TV Podcast Industries

Date recorded: 05/03/2025

Date published: 07/03/2025

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The intro and outro music for our show is provided by award winning blues artist Mississippi MacDonald you can find more of his music at his website MississippiMacdonald.com .

It's been a long long time coming but your Defenders are back as John and Derek return to discuss Daredevil Born Again Episode 1. We're going into full spoiler filled detail on the return of Daredevil, so make sure you've watched the episode before listening to our podcast.

Directed by Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead

Written by Dario Scardapane

Daredevil Born Again Episode 1 Cast

• Charlie Cox - Matt Murdock/Daredevil
• Vincent D'Onofrio - Wilson Fisk
• Deborah Ann Woll - Karen Page
• Elden Henson - Foggy Nelson
• Wilson Bethel - Benjamin Poindexter / Bullseye

During each podcast we'll ask a question about each episode in our Daredevil Born Again Josie's Bar Quiz. You can send in your answers each week to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com At the end of the nine episode series the fellow Defenders with the most correct answers will be in with the chance of getting their hands on some Daredevil Born Again goodies. All questions will be updated on: https://www.tvpodcastindustries.com

Thank you so much for listening to our Daredevil Born Again Podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast through our website TV Podcast Industries.

If you would like to send any of your thoughts in please send the m to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com join us on facebook at Facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries or you can now record your thoughts for the podcast directly from our website tvpodcastindustries.com by clicking the “Send Voicemail” button.

We'll be back later this week with our podcast on Daredevil Born Again Episode 2 we hope you'll join us.

Keep watching, Keep Listing and Keep Defending

John, Chris and Derek

Defenders on TV Podcast Industries

Date recorded: 02/03/2025

Date published: 05/03/2018

All images and audio clips are copyright of Marvel and Disney Plus and are used for the purposes of review no infringement is intended.

The intro and outro music for our show is provided by award winning blues artist Mississippi MacDonald you can find more of his music at his website MississippiMacdonald.com .

We are back for the final time to discuss What If 308 the finale of What If? With gorgeous animation and some nods and hints to what could be out there this was a good capper on the show.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Bryan Andrews

In a flashback, it's revealed that the Watcher was once a Watcher disciple named Uatu who was recruited to become a full Watcher by the Eminence.

In the present, the Watcher is placed on trial for his repeated interferences, namely giving Strange Supreme the information he needed to recreate his own universe, and saving Riri Williams, Kwai Jun-Fan, Reed Richards, Nick Fury and Madisynn King, as well as his actions regarding Captain Carter.

The two are rescued by Ultron who sacrifices himself to buy them time to escape. Under attack, the Watcher grants his friends the powers of a Watcher and Carter sacrifices herself to transport everyone to Strange Supreme's reborn universe where Strange renders the other Watchers powerless.

Embracing his existence and naming himself Uatu he convinces the humbled Eminence that there are lessons to be learned in every corner of the Multiverse and they should join together to improve the lives of all they survey.

As they mourn Captain Carter's death, the Watcher invites Kahhori, Byrdie and Storm to rejoice in her life and ponder the question “What’s Next?”.

• Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter / Captain Carter
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence
• Devery Jacobs as Kahhori
• Alison Sealy-Smith as Ororo Munroe / Storm the Goddess of Thunder
• Natasha Lyonne as Byrdie
• Ross Marquand as Infinity Ultron
• D. C. Douglas as the Incarnate
• Darin De Paul as the Executioner

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for all of our What If? podcasts over the last 3 seasons. We hope you'll join us for our podcasts in 2025. Just in time for the 10th anniversary of the start of our Marvel podcast we'll be returning to where it all began with Daredevil in March.

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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John and Derek are back for the penultimate episode as we discuss What If 307 What If The Watcher Disappeared? This episode brings back major characters, introduces a new hero and welcomes the first MCU appearance of a fan favourite mutant.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck

In the Fifth Dimension, the Watcher stands trial before the other three Watchers— consisting of the Eminence, the Incarnate, and the Executioner— while Captain Peggy Carter leads a team consisting of Kahhori, a grown-up Byrdie, and Storm the Goddess of Thunder on stopping the multiversal incursions.

After preventing an inter-dimensional universe-eater from attacking Earth-625, Carter and her team notice the three shards of the Watcher's observatory, and resolve to go help him.

After their first attempts to synthesize the shards fail and cost them two shards, the group consider requesting help from a variant of Infinity Ultron, while also agreeing to use Time Variance Authority (TVA) equipment to prune him should he go rogue.

After a heart-to-heart with Storm, Carter resolves to meet with Infinity Ultron alone, only to be captured by the Eminence.

Noticing Carter went missing, Kahhori, Byrdie, and Storm confront Ultron, who reveals that he has realised there is no peace without life and concludes that he made a mistake in extinguishing all life in his universe. Though it is too late for redemption, he is willing to atone for his actions and absorbs the shard before agreeing to take them to rescue Carter and the Watcher.

• Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter / Captain Carter
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence
• Devery Jacobs as Kahhori
• Alison Sealy-Smith as Ororo Munroe / Storm the Goddess of Thunder
• Natasha Lyonne as Byrdie
• Karen Gillan as Nebula
• Kat Dennings as Darcy Lewis
• Seth Green as Howard the Duck
• Taika Waititi as Korg
• Ross Marquand as Infinity Ultron
• Fred Tatasciore as Groot
• D. C. Douglas as the Incarnate
• Darin De Paul as the Executioner
• Alexandra Daniels as Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel.

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 7 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts on the final episode of What If? next time.

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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Taking a page from comics Derek and John travel to the old west for What If 306 What If 1872? This adventure featuring Shang-Chi, Hawkeye and The Hood is a perfect entry into What If.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck and Bryan Andrews

In the 1860s, Xu Xialing fled to America for a better life only to fall victim to The Hood's plan to vilify Chinese immigrants in order to consolidate his power.

In 1872, Shang-Chi is searching for his sister alongside Kate Bishop, who wants revenge on the Hood for killing her family. They find a decimated township and meet a boy, Kwai Jun-Fan, who claims the Hood attacked and left on a ghost train.

Shang-Chi, Bishop, and Jun-Fan find and board the train, where they discover that the missing immigrants have been brainwashed by the Hood's enforcer Sonny Burch.

The Watcher helps Jun-Fan survive while Shang-Chi and Bishop are taken to the Hood, revealed to be a corrupted Xialing, who killed the original Hood and stole his powers.

Burch confesses to killing Bishop's parents and attempts to brainwash her, until Jun-Fan rings the bell, freeing the prisoners and allowing Kate to knock Burch out. Shang-Chi refuses to join or fight Xialing and Kate Bishop kills her.

Later, the pair observe Jun-Fan telling his heroic story to the other immigrants and they ride off into the sunset.

Subsequently, the Watcher is confronted by three other Watchers for his interference and a few shards of their observatory spill into the multiverse.

• Simu Liu as Xu Shang-Chi
• Hailee Steinfeld as Kate Bishop
• Wyatt Russell as John Walker / U.S. Agent
• Meng'er Zhang as Xu Xialing / The Hood
• Walton Goggins as Sonny Burch
• Allen Deng as Kwai Jun-Fan
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence.

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 6 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts for the rest of the final season of What If?

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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A return to form for the season as John and Derek chat about What If 305 What If The Emergence Destroyed The Earth? A dark episode with a hopeful end.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck

After the Earth was split apart by the Emergence, Quentin Beck overtook Stark Industries, creating an army of drones called the Iron Federation to subjugate the survivors.

In the present, Riri Williams is recruited by Wong, Okoye, Valkyrie, and Ying Nan to join their "Alliance". After defeating Beck's lieutenant Vision, Williams uses his components to become a human-synthezoid hybrid.

While the Alliance holds off the Federation, she infiltrates Beck's base to destroy the nanites powering his illusion. However, her suit fails and she loses the ability to see through Beck's illusions and is lured into a prison cell, where Beck explains that he uploaded the nanites into himself, meaning he can control illusions with his mind.

But the nanites are killing him, so he intends to merge with Vision to live longer. Williams breaks free, only to learn that her comrades are dead and everything since Vision's defeat has been an illusion.

The Watcher intervenes by encouraging Williams to fight back, so she siphons the nanites off Beck's body, killing him and destroying the Federation. Williams then projects the Avengers logo into the sky to give the survivors hope.

Elsewhere, three other Watchers are displeased by the Watcher's continued interference.

• Dominique Thorne as Riri Williams / Ironheart
• Alejandro Saab as Quentin Beck / Mysterio
• Emily VanCamp as Sharon Carter / Power Broker
• Kenna Ramsey as Okoye
• David Chen as Wong
• Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie
• Michelle Wong as Ying Nan
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence
• D. C. Douglas as the Incarnate
• Darin De Paul as the Executioner

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 5 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts for the rest of the final season of What If?

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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Derek and John continue our podcasts with What if 304 What If Howard The Duck Got Hitched? Even a stellar MCU cast of guest voice actors can't save this simply weird episode, a low point for the series.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck

During Thor's party on Earth, Howard the Duck marries Darcy Lewis, and they have a baby that takes the form of an egg.

The couple is subsequently invited to the Grandmaster's intergalactic cruise, but he takes the egg and attempts to cook it for a breakfast before Yondu Udonta steals it.

As the couple gives chase, Nick Fury and Phil Coulson explain that because their child was born during a rare alignment of the Nine Realms called the Convergence, it is destined for great things and has become highly sought after by several factions.

On Knowhere, Yondu delivers the egg to Kaecilius who kills him and attempts to use it as a host body for Dormammu.

S.H.I.E.L.D. attacks, intending to contain the egg, though Howard and Darcy recover it and flee to Jotunheim to seek shelter from Loki.

However, Loki's father Laufey, the Dark Elf Malekith, the Olympian god Zeus, and Thanos and his Black Order are also after the egg, and a chase ensues.

As Howard and Darcy are cornered, the egg suddenly glows gold, rises into the sky and subdues the pursuers with golden energy. It hatches moments later into a human/duck hybrid which the parents name Byrdie.

Fury admits that the child should be with her parents and ceases the pursuit as the family return home in peace.

• Kat Dennings as Darcy Lewis
• Seth Green as Howard the Duck
• Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
• Tom Hiddleston as Loki
• Clark Gregg as Phil Coulson
• Michael Rooker as Yondu Udonta
• Matt Friend as the Grandmaster
• Josh Brolin as Thanos
• Rachel House as Topaz
• Jared Butler as Kaecilius
• Andrew Morgado as Laufey
• Darin De Paul as Zeus
• Chris Hemsworth as Thor
• Tom Vaughan-Lawlor as Ebony Maw
• Steven French as Malekith
• Kari Wahlgren as Carina
• Hamish Parkinson as Beerbot 5000

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 4 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts for the rest of the final season of What If?

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

TV Podcast Industries

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