Episodes

  • S2 E11: Life of a Full-Time DAO Contributor (Kairon)
    Sep 19 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Kairon, Founder of ASCAN and a full-time DAO contributor. 

    Kairon got started in web3 when he took a leap of faith, quit his day job, and dove headfirst into the space. Although he doesn’t recommend that approach for everyone, he’s learned a few things along the way and shares those learnings with our listeners. 

    We set the stage by defining a DAO as Kairon shares the thought process he goes through when choosing a project to contribute to. We lay out some of the common DAO structures and Kairon explains what it’s like making money through contribution - without a supervisor, without clocking in, and without being contractually bound to the work. 

    We discuss some major issues contributors face when working for DAOs, including issues of ambiguous compensation and free labor, as well as issues DAOs themselves are facing - like over-decentralizing too quickly. 

    We close out our conversation with Kairon explaining the day-to-day of a DAO contributor and describing what contribution looks like for him, leaving listeners with some advice if they are interested in getting involved in the DAO space. He also gives us the inside scoop on his newest project - ASCAN. 

    To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anay_sim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Kairon @K41RON.

     

    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    2:16 Kairon’s background

    7:35 Defining a DAO

    10:41 How Kairon chooses a DAO to contribute to

    13:05 DAO structure

    15:50 Onboarding into DAOs

    17:50 Contributor compensation

    20:25 The issue of free labor in DAOs

    23:16 Token value

    28:40 Key issues for DAOs today

    30:54 Over-decentralization 

    35:19 Supercontributors 

    38:02 What does contribution look like?

    41:49 ASCAN

    45:08 Follow Kairon!

     

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    46 mins
  • S2 E10: Breaking Down The Merge and Why it's Just the Beginning for Ethereum (Jon Charbonneau)
    Sep 12 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Jon Charbonneau, a Research Associate at the crypto research platform Delphi Digital. If you’re trying to wrap your head around The Merge or Ethereum itself, Jon has you covered in this conversation.

    We kickoff the episode getting to know Jon, his background, and how he fell down the crypto rabbit hole. As a prominent writer, Jon is the perfect guest to take us on a deep dive on Ethereum, its innerworkings, and of course, The Merge. As we peel back the layers of the largest smart contract blockchain, we also discuss Ethereum’s vision, core values, community, functionality, and why Jon is so excited about it. 

    Turning to The Merge itself, Jon breaks down topics such as proof of work vs. proof of stake, the beacon chain, the reasoning behind the merge, energy efficiency, and more. He also debunks some common misconceptions regarding The Merge and clarifies what users and validators should expect in the coming weeks. 

    As we close our conversation, we touch on some delicate Ethereum issues, including what it means to scale Ethereum, the correlation between security and decentralization, incentives for validators, censorship, regulation, and other important topics. 

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    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    0:52 Jon’s background

    2:44 Why Jon is excited about Ethereum

    4:18 Core values of Ethereum

    6:07 Ethereum’s dazzling functionality

    7:47 The Merge

    10:50 The Beacon Chain

    12:33 Will proof of work continue?

    14:45 Why merge? 

    17:45 Scaling Ethereum

    19:19 What will change for Ethereum users?

    19:55 What will change for Ethereum validators?

    21:53 Security and decentralization

    25:16 Financial requirements for validators

    26:50 Censorship 

    32:01 Regulation

    35:44 The future of Ethereum

    39:20 Follow Jon!

     

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    40 mins
  • S2 E9: Boys Club and Vulnerability Maximalism (Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins)
    Aug 29 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins, Co-Founders of Boys Club. Boys Club is a community known as the no bro zone for the crypto curious.

    Deana has been in the crypto space since 2017 and spent four years convincing her friend Natasha to get on the bandwagon. In 2021 Natasha finally saw what all of the hype was about and together, they founded Boys Club. 

    Boys Club is a safe space for people to explore crypto and ask questions, even if they don’t look like the traditional tech guy. We discuss Boys Club’s mission of onboarding women and non-binary people into web3 by nurturing curiosity and helping people find web3 use cases for things they are already interested in. 

    We dive deeper into Boys Club, how the name came to be, and what makes this community and brand so special. We also get into Boys Club’s DAO, why DAOs should start small, and how a brand can scale while maintaining its cohesiveness. We discuss the importance of women-led projects in the space, while also acknowledging that being a woman is not the most interesting thing here - it’s what we’re building and what we’re creating. 

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    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:46 Deana’s background

    4:00 Natasha’s background

    7:31 Creating a safe place for vulnerability in web3

    8:40 Onboard to web3 by finding your other interests within the space

    9:48 Nurturing curiosity for web3

    11:15 Why the name Boys Club? 

    12:12 How working on Gracias helped Deana build Boys Club

    15:20 What are the defining characteristics of Boys Club?

    18:17 Why start a DAO?

    21:09 Why DAOs should start small

    23:31 How does a decentralized community maintain its brand identity as it scales?

    28:23 Is feminism a core part of the Boys Club Brand? 

    30:26 Refocusing the Boy’s Club brand

    35:06 The importance of community first organizations

    36:11 How to get involved with Boys Club

    36:57 Follow Deana and Natasha!

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    38 mins
  • S2 E8: Guild: Building the Infrastructure Layer for Online Communities (Reka)
    Aug 22 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Reka, Co-Founder of Guild. Guild is an automated membership management tool for web2 and web3 communities across all communication platforms. 

    We dive into Guild’s core principles - user experience, interoperability, security, and privacy, as Reka explains what Guild is, how it works, and why it’s successful. We discuss how Guild is becoming the default membership layer of web3 and how it’s embracing web2.

    We discuss the fundamental differences between the business models of web2 and web3 companies, and Anay touches on the concept of the 1000 true fans. Reka walks us through what it’s like to use Guild both as a community manager and a community member, and we dive into topics like access control, privacy, composability, and user journey. 

    We touch on the role of membership in DAOs and how Guild can help combat many of the challenges DAOs face today. To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anaysim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Reka on Twitter @reka_eth and Guild @guildxyz.

     

    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:08 What is Guild?

    8:03 Why Guild is successful

    9:36 Guild’s core values

    14:15 What privacy looks like on guild

    19:28 Guild as the default membership layer in web3

    25:09 How Guild is embracing web2

    28:45 Fundamental differences between web2 and web3 business models

    31:24 The 1000 true fans business model

    33:44 User experience of using Guild

    40:20 The role of membership management in DAOs

    44:10 Follow Reka!

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    46 mins
  • S2 E7: Autonomous Worlds: Expanding the Magic Circle in Gaming (Justin Glibert)
    Aug 15 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Justin Glibert from 0xPARC. 0xPARC is a program for applied research in cryptography, supporting application-level R&D on Ethereum and decentralized platforms.

    Justin’s first touchpoint with crypto was on hacker forums when he was in his early teens. He discovered that people were selling exploits to each other with bitcoin, which at the time only cost $10. Fast forward to the pandemic, Justin happened to stumble across a tweet about the game Dark Forest and decided to DM the creators on twitter. Next thing you know he was invited to Mexico to spend 3 months with them working to work on the game. 

    Justin explains what Dark Forest is and why it’s so different from any other game out there. We dive into how trust between gamers and game creators is different once a game is fully on-chain and Justin defines the gaming concept of a “magic circle.” We discuss the Metaverse, gaming in the Metaverse, and how the Metaverse is much more than VR sets and NFT galleries. 

    Justin tells us all about 0xPARC and the inspiration behind it. We talk about zero knowledge proofs, autonomous worlds, building for the future, co-ops, and 0xPARC’s long term business model. Justin explains some basics of digital physics and some of the things 0xPARC is experimenting with. We come to the conclusion that although gaming may be the key to mainstream crypto adoption, crypto simply isn’t ready for mainstream adoption quite yet - and that’s okay because when it is, 0xPARC will be ready. 

    To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anaysim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Justin on Twitter @justinglibert  and 0xPARC @0xParc.

     

    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    0:58 Justin’s background

    3:26 What is Dark Forest?

    10:59 How does trust between gamers and the game creators change the gaming experience when a game is fully on-chain?

    13:51 What is a magic circle?

    17:57 Gaming and the Metaverse

    22:34 What is 0xPARC? 

    25:03 What is a Zero Knowledge Proof?

    28:11 0xPARC - building for the future

    29:38  Exploring co-ops

    31:05  0xPARC’s long term business model 

    33:48 What 0xPARC is currently experimenting with 

    36:31 Digital physics

     42:46 Should digital spaces mirror our physical realities?

    47:05 Web3 gaming and mainstream adoption of crypto

    54:03 Follow Justin!

     

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    55 mins
  • S2 E6: How Crypto can Help Combat Climate Change (Raphaël Haupt)
    Aug 8 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking with Raphaël Haupt, Founder and CEO of Toucan.

    We begin the episode laying some groundwork and defining the term “ReFi” or regenerative finance. As Raphaël explains, ReFi is taking DeFi technology and using it for regenerative, real world, positive externalities, like combating climate change. 

    We dive into climate change - an issue Raphaël has dedicated his life to - and we discuss carbon footprints, carbon tokens, and the carbon offsetting market. Raphaël explains some of the main issues with the current carbon offsetting market and how Toucan is using blockchain technology to combat those issues.

    We dive into the ins and outs of how Toucan operates, and we discuss the importance of using web3 technology with intentions for greater good and positive change. Raphaël looks to the future and shares his hopes for Toucan in the next 5-10 years. 

    To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anay_sim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Raphaël on Twitter @raphabenoi and learn more about Toucan by going to toucan.earth.

     

    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:38 What is ReFi?

    6:22 Why was the climate crisis what Raphaël chose to spend his career on? 

    10:51 Why is carbon the first issue to tackle?

    12:07 How the carbon offsetting market operates

    18:49 Issues with the voluntary carbon markets today 

    23:00 How blockchain technology can improve the voluntary carbon market

    24:35 How Toucan operates

    32:04 Pools on Toucan

    34:22 Utilizing finance and tech to do good in the world

    39:32 Raphaël’s vision for the future of Toucan

    42:05 Follow Raphaël!

     

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    43 mins
  • S2 E5: DAO Delegation: To Delegate to an Individual or a DAO? (Linda Xie and Julia Rosenberg)
    Jun 20 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking to Julia Rosenberg and Linda Xie. Julia is a Co-Founder of Orca Protocol, a DAO implementation tool and Linda is a Co-Founder of Scalar Capital, a crypto investment firm. Linda is also a Delegate for Gitcoin, Element and Optimism. 

    We begin our conversation by laying some groundwork and having Linda and Julia answer the big question: what is metagovernance? We dive into all of the nuances of metagovernance and discuss its fluidity, dynamics, chaos, benefits, and how it evolved over time.

    The conversation leads us to discussing delegates within DAOs that participate in metagovernance, and Linda explains how she manages being a delegate for 3 different organizations as well as running her own company. We discuss delegate compensation models, issues with those models, the pros and cons of Gitcoin’s implementation of health cards, and the issue of “zombie delegates.”

    Julia explains her philosophy of governance via working groups/ factions/ parties over putting the responsibility in the hands of individuals. We compare metagovernance to political structures we see today, and discuss the issues of politics and popularity contests within metagovernance. 

    We close out our conversation re-envisioning what we’d like governance to look like in the future, shouting out some amazing projects that are on the leading edge of metagovernance, and leaving listeners with some tips for how to get involved and become a delegate. 

    To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anaysim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Linda on Twitter @ljxie and Julia @JulzRoze.

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    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:37 What is Metagovernance?

    3:22 The benefits of Metagovernance

    3:48 Fluidity and dynamics of Metagovernance

    5:54 Avoiding Chaos in Metagovernance

    7:50 How Metagovernance has evolved over time

    12:05 How does Linda do it??

    14:37 Delegate compensation models

    15:42 Issues with delegate compensation models

    18:39 Gitcoin’s implementation of health cards

    22:41 The issue of “zombie delegates”

    23:40 Orca’s model of rotating delegates

    27:09 pod responsibility over delegate responsibility

    28:49 The issue of politics in metagovernance

    31:51 Exciting examples of metagovernance

    38:25 Tips for becoming a DAO delegate 

    42:02 Follow Julia!

    42:15 Follow Linda!

     

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    43 mins
  • S2 E4: Cryptomedia and Writing NFTs: Making Content Ownable (Patrick Rivera)
    Jun 13 2022

    On this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking to Patrick Rivera, Product Engineer at Mirror, a home for web3 publishing. 

    We begin the episode getting to know Patrick, his background, and how he fell down the crypto rabbit hole. He takes us through his journey from web2 to web3 and describes an article that really inspired him, Zora’s “What is Cryptomedia?” manifesto. 

    Next, Patrick defines the term cryptomedia. He describes some of the issues in web2 media and explains how web3 is aiming to combat those issues. He lays out for us how Mirror enables creators to monetize their work, a completely different model from the ads and algorithms we’re used to in web2.

    Patrick emphasizes the importance of using crypto native tools and highlights some projects using mirror successfully. We discuss the different approaches creators can take when migrating to web3 and how NFTs are changing our digital identity. 

    To close out our conversation, Patrick gives us the inside scoop on Mirror’s newest features and shares how Mirror hopes to impact and benefit the web3 ecosystem in the future. 

    To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Anay on Twitter @anay_sim and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can also follow Patrick on Twitter @patrickxrivera and Mirror @viamirror. You can check out Patrick's writing here. 

     

    ⌛ TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:05 Patrick’s background

    2:48 Patrick’s transition from defi to mirror

    4:51 Zora’s “What is Cryptomedia?” manifesto 

    6:42 What is cryptomedia?

    9:17 What are some of the problems with creator tools that exist today?

    12:59 How mirror enables creators to monetize their work through NFTs

    16:51 The importance of monetizing with crypto native tools

    19:36 Examples of projects utilizing Mirror

    22:02 How creators can migrate to web3

    25:25 How Mirror is improving discoverability and search optimization

    28:57 Mirror’s new features

    31:13 Written NFTs and digital identity

    34:42 Crypto’s trojan horse

    38:02 How does mirror hope to impact the web3 ecosystem

    39:41 Is Mirror a protocol?

    41:24 Follow Patrick!

     

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    42 mins