Jane and Chris talk to Richard Ovenden OBE: Bodley's 25th librarian (and Chris's ultimate boss) about leading one of the world's greatest research libraries, his best selling book 'Burning the Books' and the copyright implications of preserving knowledge in the 21st century. Photo credit: John Cairns Links to things mentioned in the podcast: Meet Bodley's Librarian: https://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/about/libraries/bodleys-librarian Burning the Books Radio 4 serialisation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000m4pm Tolkein at the Bodleian: https://tolkien.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/ Amazon's Rings of Power: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Power-Season/dp/B09QH98YG1 Withdrawal of UK proposal to expand scope of text and data mining (TDM): https://www.allenovery.com/en-gb/global/blogs/data-hub/uk-re-considers-proposed-exception-for-text-and-data-mining UK Web Archive: https://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/ Richard's journey to Bodley's Librarian: https://blogs.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/oxfordtrainees/opening-doors-the-journey-to-bodleys-librarian/ Deal Library, Kent: https://local.kent.gov.uk/kb5/kent/directory/service.page?id=5GDeJlwVtCg Ian Mowat, Historian and forward thinking librarian: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11953652.ian-mowat-historian-and-forward-thinking-librarian/ Cliff Lynch, director of the Coalition for Networked Information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Lynch The File by Timothy Garton Ash: https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/the-file/ Privacy is Power by Carissa Veliz: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/442343/privacy-is-power-by-carissa-veliz/9780552177719 Simon Hopkinson's Saint-emilion au Chocolat: https://racheleats.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/saint-emilion-au-chocolat/