In this special podcast extra, at an event hosted by The Wheeler Centre, Sales interviews her idol Helen Garner about her new book The Season, in front of a live audience in Melbourne.

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Crabb makes hay with Sales’ baroque list-making in relation to what she’s watched and read during the summer holidays.

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Crabb & Sales have bounded into the studio full of joy about the things they've watched, read and listened to during the summer holidays. Crabb is first to share her list of recommendations, with Sales next time.

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It's that time of year. Sales is like a dog with two tails because she's allowed to make her "best of" list for 2024, and Crabb is completing her "Twelve Days" lyrics about twelve seconds before walking on stage at Llewellyn Hall for the notorious Christmas show. Thank you as ever to the ANU and the always-brilliant Canberra crowd!

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Sales has mixed feelings about a polemic questioning why society considers romantic relationships paramount when many people end up with a friend, parent or sibling as their closest person in a lifetime. Crabb’s been getting into an advice column, a crime podcast and a fascinating reality show about juries.

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Once again, by accident this poorly-coordinated pair has stumbled into a theme. Women telling powerful and wide-ranging stories, including the counter-cultural paean to young men that is Helen Garner's latest. Starting a story and not knowing how it's going to end? Nothing more dangerous, nothing more exhilarating, especially in the hands of a skilled craftswoman. Tis the Season! Yule not be disappointed by this lineup; Naomi Klein, Pamela RAAAABE, Steph Tisdell and Virginia Trioli. Okay we'll see ourselves out.

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Crabb & Sales celebrate 10 years of Chat 10 Looks 3 in Melbourne with two incredible guests: writer Helen Garner and comedian Kitty Flanagan.

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Once again, Sales has belatedly slouched towards something everybody else watched years ago. This time - appropriately enough - it’s Slow Horses. Crabb has been galloping around the MOAD.

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