Her Dark Materials is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Faye and Rachael discussing the His Dark Materials novels chapter by chapter, spoiler-free. In this episode we chat about Chapter 37 of The Amber Spyglass – The Dunes. In this chapter, we learn what the secret is, and we wish we could go back to when we were blissfully unaware. Why, Phil? Why?! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @HDMPod and you can email us at herdarkmaterialspod@gmail.com. You can also visit our website at hdmpod.co.uk. WE HAVE A PATREON! You can join our family and access lots of fun rewards at patreon.com/hdmpod. You can also support us by rating and reviewing us on Apple Podcasts, it helps other people find us. WE HAVE A SHOP! Want to get your hands on some sweet merch featuring all original artwork by Rach? Head over to hdmpod.co.uk/shop. You can listen to more of Faye’s voice on her other podcast, Still Into You: A Paramore Podcast. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts and follow it on Twitter and Instagram @StillIntoYouPod. You can find Rachael @RachMakes on Instagram and @Rach_Makes on Twitter and TikTok. Into toys, art and all things cute and colourful? If so, you can visit Rach's website rachmakes.co.uk to buy some of her creations. The theme music for the podcast was written and produced by Jonny Knott.