This episode is proudly brought to you by ANZ. A new series of conversations with different mob around the country to yarn about, meaningful career opportunities within ANZ, building the capacity of Indigenous businesses and organisations, and helping individuals in the broader community to achieve financial wellbeing and resilience.

If you’d like to know more about how ANZ can help improve your financial wellbeing, or help you start, run or grow your business, visit anz.com or call 13 13 14.

In this latest episode, we continue our ANZ Partnership Series with an inspiring yarn featuring Donald Betts. A proud descendant of the Choctaw Nation and a trailblazer in his own right, Donald shares his incredible journey from becoming the youngest senator in the history of Kansas, to now a dynamic leader in Australia’s First Nations business space.

Donald talks about his role (at the time of recording) as Acting CEO of Kinaway Chamber of Commerce and their groundbreaking initiatives to empower Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander businesses. From global trade alliances to hosting the World Indigenous Business Forum in 2025, Kinaway is making waves in Indigenous enterprise.

This episode dives deep into the importance of partnerships like the one between ANZ & Kinaway, which is fostering opportunities for Indigenous businesses through financial literacy, tailored services, and global support. It’s an empowering yarn about resilience, community, and the limitless potential of First Nations entrepreneurship.

Tune in for an episode full of inspiration, collaboration, and vision for a brighter future.

Recommendations throughout this episode:

Indigenous small business banking services:

https://www.anz.com.au/business/indigenous-banking/

https://www.kinaway.com.au/

Call ANZ’s dedicated Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander customer support line on 1800 037 366 https://www.anz.com.au/support/contact-us/customer-support-line/

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Opportunities https://www.anz.com.au/careers/programs/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-opportunities/

For general enquiries visit anz.com or call 13 13 14

When we reference ANZ in this episode, we are referring to Australia and New Zealand Banking Group operating in Australia and New Zealand.

Given the nature of this podcast, all comments are general in nature and do not take into account the listeners’ financial circumstances, goals or objectives. Please think about what is right for you and seek independent advice.

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In this special "Best Of" episode of the Black Magic Woman Podcast, we revisit one of our most heartfelt and inspiring yarns with a guest whose journey embodies resilience, pride, and representation. Hailing from the lands of the Whadjuk Noongar people, this trailblazer is known for breaking barriers in Australian media as a celebrated news presenter and advocate for social justice.

Our mystery guest grew up as the youngest of five daughters in a loving, culturally rich household and now uses their platform to amplify Indigenous voices across the country. They traveled over 36,000 kilometers in 2023 alone, engaging with grassroots communities, elders, and leaders, all while bringing authenticity and lived experience to the stories they tell.

Here’s a clue: You’ve likely seen this Black Magic Woman in the spotlight—whether anchoring the news, dancing in trackies on Instagram, or hosting thought-provoking conversations about cultural heritage and equality.

Can you guess who it is before the big reveal? Tune in to celebrate this iconic episode with a guest who truly embodies the spirit of the Black Magic Woman Podcast! 🌟

✨ We’re on holidays and will return with new episodes on the 22nd of January 2025! In the meantime, enjoy this unforgettable yarn and relive one of our best moments on the podcast. 🎧✨

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Get ready for a special "Best of Black Magic Woman Podcast" episode featuring a Mystery Guest who has inspired thousands with their eloquent words, fierce love for their people, and unwavering commitment to creating a better Australia. Who could it be? Here are some clues:

• They’ve had a profound international career, reporting from over 80 countries, but their heart has always remained connected to their roots in Wiradjuri country.
• This guest is a passionate advocate for preserving Indigenous languages and was instrumental in the development of the first Wiradjuri dictionary alongside their father, a language trailblazer.
• They’ve delivered a viral speech, turning the Australian Dream on its head to spotlight the reality for First Nations people.

Can you guess who it is? Tune in for this powerful and inspiring conversation that showcases the heart and wisdom of one of Australia’s most influential voices.

✨ We’re on holidays and will return with new episodes on the 22nd of January 2025! In the meantime, enjoy this unforgettable yarn and relive one of our best moments on the podcast. 🎧✨

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The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities. Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do.

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This special episode revisits one of our most captivating conversations of the year, featuring a guest whose journey is as dazzling as it is inspiring. 🌟

Clue #1: Known as the "First Nations Drag Queen," they’re a proud Gamilaroi and Dunghutti person making waves in the LGBTQIA+ and First Nations communities. 💃🏽
Clue #2: Their story is one of resilience, passion, and breaking barriers, all while shining a light on the importance of self-expression and cultural pride. 🎭
Clue #3: They use their art to educate and empower, leaving an indelible mark on the worlds of drag and First Nations activism.

✨ We’re on holidays and will return with new episodes on the 22nd of January 2025! In the meantime, enjoy this unforgettable yarn and relive one of our best moments on the podcast. 🎧✨

Think you know who it is? Tune in now to find out!

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As we approach Christmas, we’re taking time to reflect on the incredible stories shared on the Black Magic Woman Podcast this year. This week, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with my childhood sis, Samala Thakialee Cronin, the powerhouse behind MumRed the Label.

Samala is more than a designer; she’s a storyteller, weaving culture, identity, and resilience into every piece she creates. From using kangaroo sinew and weaving techniques passed down through generations to showcasing her work on international runways, she’s breaking barriers and ensuring our people are not just seen but celebrated.

We talked about her recent achievements, like creating stunning bespoke pieces for Thelma Plum and representing our culture at major events like New York Fashion Week. Samala also shared her powerful reflections on kinship, black matriarchy, and the strength of our mob.

💬 “How can they hear us if they can’t see us?”

This yarn is close to my heart, and I know you’ll feel the same. Samala’s passion and determination are inspiring, and I couldn’t be prouder of the deadly work she’s doing.

Check out the links below for more info about MumRed the Label and how you can support my sista.

Links & Resources:

• https://www.mumred.com.au/
• https://www.instagram.com/mumred_the_label/

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In this episode I yarn with Coby Edgar, a proud queer First Nations curator and cultural practitioner. Coby shares her journey from Darwin to Sydney, the intersection of art and activism, and the significance of storytelling in keeping history and culture alive. We explore her approach to curating community-driven exhibitions, the joy of working with mob, and her vision for fostering connection through art.

Coby's current exhibition, "Same, Same, Different," at the Blacktown Arts Centre, explores how people connect across cultures through shared experiences like food, traditions, and storytelling. This community-focused show emphasizes the beauty of diversity while celebrating commonalities, inspired by her conversations with mob and her uncle's insights on cultural overlaps.

The exhibition highlights the connections between people, place, and history, offering a joyful and thought-provoking perspective on identity and belonging. Don’t miss this incredible showcase of creativity and cultural dialogue!

Links & Resources:

• Bankstown Arts Centre website
• https://powerhouse.com.au/stories/durrmu-arts-aboriginal-corporation
• https://www.2022.australianceramicstriennale.com.au/presenters-and-artists/coby-edgar

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In this inspiring episode, Mundanara Bayles sits down with Amanda Mudege-Fleischer, one half of the dynamic duo behind It’s Layered, a podcast featured on the Black Cast Network. Amanda shares her journey from Zimbabwe to Australia, how she found her voice in podcasting alongside her co-host Rumbi (based in the Czech Republic), and the challenges and triumphs of creating a platform for honest conversations about life in the diaspora.

We yarn about the power of storytelling, representation in media, and the importance of creating spaces where Black voices can thrive unapologetically. Amanda reflects on the cultural richness of her African heritage, the realities of navigating life in a new country, and the profound connections forged through podcasting.

Whether you’re a seasoned podcaster or considering starting your own, this episode is filled with insights on intention, persistence, and the value of amplifying diverse voices.

✨ Don’t miss this engaging yarn about culture, creativity, and community.

Links & Resources:

• https://www.itslayeredpodcast.com/about
• https://open.spotify.com/show/2kG8UKCcxtsSR9joyURQjl?si=86add357b14a4911

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In Part 2 of our conversation on the Black Magic Woman Podcast, I continue my yarn with Sal Balharrie and Dannielle Maclean, the directors behind the moving film Like My Brother. This episode dives deeper into the complexities of creating a film that resonates with community values and represents the voices of young Tiwi women navigating their ambitions in football while staying rooted in cultural identity.

Sal and Dannielle share stories from the film’s seven-year journey, highlighting pivotal moments, including their dedication to obtaining cultural approvals and their partnership with Tiwi co-producers. We discuss how the film evolved from what they thought would be a “footy film” into an exploration of resilience, identity, and the strength required to walk proudly in two worlds. The conversation also touches on the trust built with the featured women and the life-changing experiences they faced, from the joy of winning grand finals to the lessons of returning home empowered with new perspectives.

Join us for this inspiring yarn that underscores the power of storytelling, the resilience of Indigenous communities, and why films like Like My Brother are essential gifts that can change perspectives and bridge divides. Don’t miss it!

Links & Resources:

• https://www.likemybrother.com/
• TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaLxna2AKRI

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