• Bert Warner with Propane Education and Research Council

  • Feb 17 2025
  • Length: 16 mins
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Bert Warner with Propane Education and Research Council

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  • Industrial Talk is onsite at PowerGen and talking to Bert Warner, Director of Commercial BD with Propane Education & Research Council about "abundant fuel for an expanding energy market". Scott MacKenzie interviews Bert Warner, Director of Commercial Business Development at the Propane Education and Research Council (PERC), at the Power Gen event in Dallas, Texas. Bert discusses the abundance of propane in the U.S., with 40 billion gallons extracted annually, of which only 10 billion are used domestically. He emphasizes propane's green energy credentials, resiliency, and cost-effectiveness compared to natural gas and electricity. Bert highlights the importance of responsible energy diversification and the need for greater public education on energy sources. He encourages listeners to visit propane.com for more information. Action Items
    • [ ] Provide more information about propane and its benefits to the public
    • [ ] Connect with Bert Warner on LinkedIn to discuss propane further

    Outline Introduction and Welcome
    • Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk Podcast, emphasizing its focus on industry innovations and trends.
    • Scott highlights the importance of the PowerGen event in Dallas, Texas, and its significance for the power and fuel industries.
    • Scott introduces Bert Warner, Director of Commercial Business Development for the Propane Education and Research Council (PERC).
    • Bert provides a brief background on his role and the council's mission to promote propane use in commercial sectors, particularly in power generation.

    Current Energy Crisis and Propane's Role
    • Bert discusses the ongoing energy crisis, emphasizing the growing gap between energy demand and supply.
    • Scott and Bert agree on the need for a diverse energy mix, including natural gas, hydrogen, and propane.
    • Bert stresses the importance of keeping propane in the energy conversation due to its potential to address the current crisis.
    • Scott and Bert discuss the societal tendency to react to crises rather than being proactive in energy solutions.

    Propane's Abundance and Green Energy Aspects
    • Bert shares statistics on propane extraction and usage in the US, highlighting its abundance.
    • Bert explains that the US uses only a small fraction of the propane extracted, with a significant amount exported.
    • Bert emphasizes propane's green energy credentials compared to the national average electric grid.
    • Bert discusses the resiliency of propane, particularly in providing energy to remote or growing areas where traditional infrastructure is costly to extend.

    Propane's Flexibility and Market Competitiveness
    • Bert explains the flexibility of propane in terms of delivery and usage, making it an attractive option for various sectors.
    • Bert compares propane to diesel, highlighting its environmental friendliness and lower maintenance requirements.
    • Scott and Bert discuss the growing conversation around decarbonization and the role of propane in this context.
    • Bert emphasizes the need for responsible energy diversification to meet high energy demands without compromising on environmental impact.

    Retrofitting and Fuel Switching
    • Scott inquires about the ease of retrofitting systems to use propane instead of diesel or natural gas.
    • Bert explains that retrofitting involves bringing in new tanks and piping, but the process is not overly complex.
    • Bert clarifies that it is not necessarily fuel...
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