In this episode, our expert panel dives into the critical, historically debated topic of early burn wound excision using a real-world case of a patient with massive surface area burns. We explore the dramatic shift from the pre-1970s "wait and watch" approach to the modern standard of early source control, backed by landmark literature showing reduced mortality and shorter hospital stays. The discussion also highlights the nuances of this timeline, covering specific scenarios where delaying surgery is actually safer due to physiologic instability, uncertain burn depths, or mass casualty events. Tune in to hear the evidence behind these clinical decisions and learn why modern burn surgeons believe that removing necrotic eschar early is the best way to dominate the day!

Hosts:

- Kathleen Romanowski – University of California Davis Hospital, Shriners Hospital Sacramento
- Laura Johnson – Grady Memorial Hospital
- Lauren Nosanov – Grady Memorial Hospital
- Victoria Miles – Louisiana State University Health Science Center, University Medical Center New Orleans

Learning Objectives:
- Review the historical development of early burn excision and understand how these studies shaped modern burn surgical practice.
- Evaluate contemporary evidence on the timing of burn excision.
- Apply current evidence and clinical principles to operative decision-making, identifying key patient and injury factors that influence the timing of excision and grafting in patients with major thermal injury.

References:

- Thompson P, Herndon DN, Abston S, Rutan T. Effect of early excision on patients with major thermal injury. J Trauma. 1987 Feb;27(2):205-7. doi: 10.1097/00005373-198702000-00019. PMID: 3820353. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3820353/
- Gray DT, Pine RW, Harnar TJ, Marvin JA, Engrav LH, Heimbach DM. Early surgical excision versus conventional therapy in patients with 20 to 40 percent burns. A comparative study. Am J Surg. 1982 Jul;144(1):76-80. doi: 10.1016/0002-9610(82)90605-5. PMID: 7046487. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7046487/
- De La Tejera G, Corona K, Efejuku T, Keys P, Joglar A, Villarreal E, Gotewal S, Wermine K, Huang L, Golovko G, El Ayadi A, Palackic A, Wolf SE, Song J. Early wound excision within three days decreases risks of wound infection and death in burned patients. Burns. 2023 Dec;49(8):1816-1822. doi: 10.1016/j.burns.2023.06.003. Epub 2023 Jun 15. PMID: 37369613; PMCID: PMC10721718. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37369613/
- Ramsey WA, O'Neil CF Jr, Corona AM, Cohen BL, Lyons NB, Meece MS, Saberi RA, Gilna GP, Satahoo SS, Kaufman JI, Schulman CI, Namias N, Proctor KG, Pizano LR. Burn excision within 48 hours portends better outcomes than standard management: A nationwide analysis. J Trauma Acute Care Surg. 2023 Jul 1;95(1):111-115. doi: 10.1097/TA.0000000000003951. Epub 2023 Apr 11. PMID: 37038260. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37038260/
- Hayashi K, Sasabuchi Y, Matsui H, Nakajima M, Otawara M, Ohbe H, Fushimi K, Ono K, Yasunaga H. Does early excision or skin grafting of severe burns improve prognosis? A retrospective cohort study. Burns. 2023 May;49(3):554-561. doi: 10.1016/j.burns.2023.01.013. Epub 2023 Feb 3. PMID: 36774244. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36774244/
- Janzekovic Z. Once upon a time ... how west discovered east. J Plast Reconstr Aesthet Surg. 2008;61(3):240-4. doi: 10.1016/j.bjps.2008.01.001. Epub 2008 Feb 1. PMID: 18243082. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18243082/

This episode includes a full, sample cardiothoracic scenario pulled directly from our Cardiothoracic Surgery Oral Board Review Course. Listen in and test your clinical pathways in real-time as we walk through the perfect answers and provide high-yield commentary to help you pass the "hot seat."

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This episode includes two full, sample vascular scenarios pulled directly from our Vascular Surgery Oral Board Review Course. Listen in and test your clinical pathways in real-time as we walk through the perfect answers and provide high-yield commentary to help you pass the "hot seat."

Sample Scenarios Included in This Episode:

• Case 22: Aortoenteric Fistula (AEF). A 78-year-old woman presents to the ER with a massive upper GI bleed and a history of an open AAA repair 10 years ago. We walk you through the immediate stabilization, CTA evaluation, and the definitive operative management—including axillobifemoral bypass, aortic stump closure, and duodenal repair.

• Case 27: Acute Mesenteric Ischemia. A 79-year-old woman with a history of atrial fibrillation presents with abdominal pain out of proportion to her physical exam. Test your decision-making on systemic heparinization, SMA embolectomy versus stenting (ROMS), and how to appropriately evaluate bowel viability with a second-look laparotomy.

• 72 High-Yield Scenarios: Covering everything from carotid stump syndrome to a AAA with a horseshoe kidney.

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In response to increasing surgeon burnout, unsustainable clinical demands, and ongoing loss of surgeon autonomy in the setting of employee-based models, the American College of Surgeons is speaking out. In this episode, hosts Dr. Steven Thornton and Dr. Emma Burke sit down with Dr. Douglas Wood, Chair of Surgery at the University of Washington and Dr. Thomas Varghese, Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of the American College of Surgeons, to discuss the new ACS Workplace Standards Framework. The conversation covers how this initiative grew out of discussions around unionization, what domains the framework addresses — from call intensity and OR block access to administrative burden and inpatient census limits — and how specialty-specific guidelines can be developed and implemented at the local level. Dr. Wood and Dr. Varghese also reflect on the culture of "unlimited endurance" that has long defined surgery, why meaningful systems-level change is both necessary and achievable, and how improving workplace sustainability could transform the pipeline of future surgeons for generations to come.

Hosts: Emma Burke and Steven Thornton

Guests: Dr. Douglas Wood & Dr. Thomas Varghese Jr.

Papers Discussed:
1. Wood DE, Wolinsky PR, Dodgion CM, et al. Developing Specialty-Specific Workplace Standards for Surgeons: A Framework to Support Sustainable Surgical Careers. Journal of the American College of Surgeons, 2026. DOI: 10.1097/XCS.0000000000001880 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41773743/

2. Varghese TK Jr. Toward Sustainable Surgical Practice: Defining Workplace Standards for the Modern Era. J Am Coll Surg. 2026 Mar 3. doi: 10.1097/XCS.0000000000001888. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 41773737. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41773737/

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The House Judiciary Committee just dropped a 47-page report calling the National Residency Match Program a hiring monopoly that harms patients, doctors, and the public — and the surgical community is talking. In this episode, Dr. Patrick Georgoff is joined by BTK surgical education fellows Dr. Emma Burke and Dr. Agnes Prem Kumar, along with special guest Dr. Brian Carmody (aka the Sheriff of Sodium), a pediatric nephrologist and one of the sharpest analysts of medical education policy working today. Together, they break down the report's central claims: that the NRMP exercises monopolistic control over residency hiring, suppresses resident wages, and strips trainees of bargaining power — and they separate what the report gets right from where its rhetoric badly outruns its evidence. From the history of Section 207 and the antitrust lawsuit that nearly brought down academic medicine, to the real economics of GME funding, resident unionization, and what a match-free world would actually look like — this is the context you need to understand one of the most consequential debates in graduate medical education in years. Don't miss Dr. Carmody's six-part YouTube series on the match, linked in the show notes.

Congressional Report: https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-report-exposes-how-medical-residency-hiring-monopoly-harms-patients-and
The Match 6-Part Video Series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc36yFQWkuG1sXk62A3zeRWB8aoK5SISP
The Sodium Sheriff Blog: https://thesheriffofsodium.com/

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A career in surgery has a profound impact on those who practice the craft. High rates of poor mental health are well described but incompletely understood. One potential mechanism for advancing our understanding of surgeon well-being is studying surgeons' emotional experiences. Shame, a self-conscious emotion reflecting how an individual feels about themselves, could be a particularly powerful lens. In this series on shame in surgery, we explore what we know about shame in surgery and what shame can tell us about learning and working as surgeons.

In this third episode, we talk with Drs. Sheina Theodore and Tejal Brahmbhatt about their study examining the relationship between internalized shame states and burnout among surgery residents. They make a compelling case that addressing the well-being crisis in surgery requires looking beyond external stressors to the internal experience of shame: the quiet, invisible voice that tells residents they aren't good enough, and ask what role the culture of surgery plays in that internal monologue.

Host: Steven Thornton

Guests:
1. Sheina Theodore (Assistant Professor of Surgery, Boston University)
2. Tejal Brahmbhatt (Associate Professor of Surgery, Cedars Sinai Medical Center)

Publications Discussed:

1. Smith SM, Kobzeva-Herzog A, McGillen P, Castagne-Charlotin M, Davies J, Sanchez SE, Dechert T, Brahmbhatt TS, Theodore S. Internalized Shame Experiences and Burnout in General Surgery Residents. J Surg Educ. 2025 Apr;82(4):103447. doi: 10.1016/j.jsurg.2025.103447. Epub 2025 Feb 6. PMID: 39919584. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39919584/

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In this second episode, we talk with Dr. ElAbd and Dr. Zammit about their study examining the relationship between shame-based learning, grit, and burnout across surgical specialties. Their findings highlight how grit may both protect against burnout and mediate whether residents go on to shame others.

Host: Steven Thornton

Guests:
1. Rawan ElAbd (Plastic Surgery Resident, McGill University)
2. Dino Zammit (Assistant Professor of Plastic Surgery, McGill University)

Publications Discussed:
1. ElAbd R, Pu L, Esmonde-White C, ElHawary H, Vorstenbosch J, Zammit D. Association of Grit and Shame Based Learning on Burnout in Surgical Training: A Single Institution Analysis. J Surg Educ. 2025 Sep;82(9):103583. doi: 10.1016/j.jsurg.2025.103583. Epub 2025 Jun 27. PMID: 40580606.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40580606/

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