What is the first thing you look for at the scene of a murder? JJ, our guest today, is here to tell us, along with everything else you've ever wanted to know about investigating a crime scene. We haven't actually worked out if JJ is a secret serial killer, as he seems like the perfect person to commit a crime, because he knows exactly what to look for at a murder scene. But he's nice, so we trust him. A polite warning that this episode does contain descriptions of scenes that some listeners might find distressing. MANUAL are offering Things People Do listeners 55% discount on their first hair loss treatment order. Click this link, and use the promo code JOEMARLER: https://hello.manual.co/a/social/joe-marler-things-people-do?coupon=JOEMARLER&utm_source=organic&utm_medium=partnership&utm_campaign=joemarler To get in touch with us, email joe@crowdnetwork.co.uk If you would like to be a guest on the show, click here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rfSo3PVJgtBRZHCCAZndem-iyy2EdvGcEYDqycsM2aQ/viewform To get ad-free and longer episodes on Apple, hit the 'grow the show' button or click: https://apple.co/3sAX0xR On Spotify you can subscribe for £1 a week by clicking this link: https://anchor.fm/thingspeopledo To become an official sponsor, go to Patreon.com/thingspeopledo To grow the show on socials, look for @thingspeoplepod on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok If you'd like to enquire about commercial partnerships with our podcast, email Ryan Bailey ryanb@crowdnetwork.co.uk Music courtesy of BMG Production Music Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices