Niall is joined by Erika Lust, a trailblazer in the world of ethical adult cinema, who is on a mission to revolutionize how we perceive sex on screen. Known for creating films that respect agency and realism, Erika isn’t just focused on breaking stereotypes—she's out to prove that adult cinema can be both artistic and commercially successful. "Sex sells," she explains, "but it doesn’t have to sell people short. We can create adult cinema where characters are relatable, their stories are rich, and sexuality is treated as an authentic, human experience."

Throughout their conversation, Erika shares her journey from a political science graduate to a filmmaker committed to ethical storytelling in adult cinema. She reflects on the mainstream industry’s issues, from exploitative labor conditions to the lack of diversity and representation. “Too often, adult content relies on outdated gender roles, objectifying women, and catering to unrealistic fantasies,” she explains. For Erika, ethical cinema is not just about what’s on screen but the way it’s created, emphasizing safe environments, respect, and meaningful narratives: “We put performers at the heart of the story, giving them a voice and choice.”

The discussion also addresses society’s discomfort with open sexual expression and how this impacts both viewers and the industry. Erika highlights how sex education—and re-education for adults—is needed to challenge the shame and stigma that persist. "Young people look to adult media for answers," she says, "and what they find often reinforces harmful stereotypes. We need content that shows real, diverse relationships, not just one-sided fantasies."

Erika also describes the excitement and community at her live screenings, revealing the surprising demand for adult cinema in a theater setting. "We had 400 people in London last week, all gathered to celebrate sex-positive, artistic cinema. There's an audience craving a deeper, more thoughtful portrayal of sexuality," she shares. For Erika, the goal is to normalize this content as something people can appreciate openly and thoughtfully, not something hidden in shame. She envisions a future where adult films are not only available but respected as a genre, appealing to those who seek more than the typical "tube site" experience.

Tune in as Niall and Erika discuss the intersections of ethics, artistry, and intimacy in modern adult cinema, with Erika passionately advocating for a space where people can explore their desires in a way that’s both empowering and genuine. This episode is a thought-provoking journey into the future of adult entertainment, questioning not just what we watch but how we watch it, and how these stories could reshape the landscape of cinema itself.