• 115: House Hacking in an Expensive Market with Avery Heilbron

  • Feb 19 2021
  • Length: 46 mins
  • Podcast

115: House Hacking in an Expensive Market with Avery Heilbron

  • Summary

  • As a Canadian native, Avery Heilbron immigrated to America to pursue soccer at the collegiate level. He found himself working a W2 job in Boston, Massachusetts. Through various books (not Rich Dad Poor Dad for once!) and BiggerPockets, he discovered real estate investing. He also began networking with other local real estate investors and closed on his first property in early 2019.

     

    Avery attributes his rather quick (and successful) start in real estate to his learn-and-take-action personality. He genuinely enjoys learning and is not one to sit around waiting for things to happen. 

     

    Up to date, Avery is House Hacking and owns two multi-family properties. He coaches other individuals looking to get started investing in real estate, as well as prospects for other larger-scaled real estate investors with the intention to find deals for them and continue his own education with their help. 

     

    Takeaways from our conversation with Avery: 1) Finding the right agent. This was a vital part of Avery’s success in securing his first deal. While taken aback at first at the thought of seeing properties not long after meeting his agent, this agent was willing to take the time to educate Avery every step of the way and move at a pace Avery was comfortable going in. So while you don’t necessarily need an agent who invests nor should you exploit one without compensation, take the time to find an agent who is a good fit or ask around for someone who can help you get the job done.

    2) Section 8 comparables. While many may suggest you stray away from this demographic of renters, the truth is these individuals in this tenant pool exist. As Avery notes, one thing to keep in mind when figuring rents for these units is how the Housing Authority determines what is “fair.” Their criteria is different from traditional means of finding comparable units. There’s less emphasis on the glitz and glamour and more focus on the amount of bedrooms and zip code. This can be beneficial to know when it comes time to increasing rent or putting in new Section 8 tenants. 

    3) Don’t get too friendly with your tenants and screen prospects thoroughly. Especially when House Hacking, you carry the title of landlord, property manager, and next-door neighbor. While you want to maintain a good and professional business relationship with your tenants, Avery suggests not turning your renters into friends. Avery would decline social invitations from his tenants and eventually they caught on. This is done not only to protect your emotions, but also your investment.

    4) “Due” your diligence. As Avery explains, when purchasing multi-family properties with (or without) inherited tenants, you have to be thorough in your research about the property. While not encouraged, it’s not uncommon for sellers to lie about rents, expenses, and condition. The seller’s motive is to unload their property so it’s your responsibility to know what you’re buying.

     

    If Avery could go back and talk to his 16 year old self, he’d tell him, “Two things… The first would be to just enjoy school and learning and all the experiences because it doesn't last forever. The second would be to stretch more…”

    Two unexpected benefits of real estate investing, Avery said, is the fact that his girlfriend is all-in about real estate and personal finance like himself, as well as the opportunity to grow wealth at a higher scale since he invests in a more expensive market.

    A piece of advice Avery would tell his friends looking to get started in real estate would be to make sure to take focused action while you learn and not get swayed in all the different directions you can go in real estate.

    Avery recommends using Cozy to help you with your rent collections and other property management needs.

    Avery recommends reading Set For Life: Dominate Life, Money and the American Dream by Scott Trench as its message resonates a lot with Avery’s philosophy and the same could be set for you!

    Honorable mention: Retire on Real Estate: Building Rental Income for a Safe and Secure Retirement by Kai Anderson.

    If you’d like to get in touch with Avery, find him on LinkedIn and BiggerPockets, follow him on Instagram @_averyheilbron, or visit: realworldfaf.com/contact

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