Truth Actuality and the Limits of Thought
Twelve Conversations with David Bohm, Brockwood Park, UK and Gstaad, Switzerland, 1975
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Jiddu Krishnamurti
About this listen
- What is truth, and what is reality? 18 May 1975. Duration: 70 minutes.
- Seeing 'what is' is action. 24 May 1975. Duration: 122 minutes.
- Thought cannot bring about an insight. 31 May 1975. Duration: 81 minutes.
- The intelligence of love. 14 June 1975. Duration: 87 minutes.
- Attention implies that there is no centre. 22 June 1975. Duration: 126 minutes.
Consciousness, because it is in constant movement, has never found an energy which is not contradictory, which is not produced by desire and thought.
Can thought ever see its own movement and the futility of its own movement?
Attention implies that there is no centre.
Is there a perception, a seeing outside the space which is part of consciousness?
There are two human beings; one gets conditioned, and the other doesn't. Why? How has it happened the other doesn't get conditioned?
How does this perception, which is beyond attention, beyond awareness, beyond concentration come about?
What is truth, and what is reality?
Anything that thought thinks about or reacts upon or projects - that is reality. And that reality has nothing to do with truth.
The art of seeing is to place reality where it is and not move that in order to get truth. You can't get truth.
How am I to empty that consciousness and yet retain knowledge - otherwise I couldn't function - and reach a state which will comprehend reality?
If truth is something totally different from reality, then what place has action in daily life, in relation to truth and reality?
Seeing 'what is' is action.
What place has love in truth? When I separate you, in that separation love cannot exist.
How are you to convey the sense of truth to a student?
As long as I live in the field of reality, which has its own energy, that energy will not free me.
When the mind is empty, when the mind is nothing, not a thing, in that there is perception.
Is there thinking without the word?
The action brought about by thought into the investigation of an analysis is always incomplete.
Insight is complete. It is not fragmented, as thought is. So thought cannot bring about insight.
I must have an insight into conditioning, otherwise I can't dissolve it.
What takes place when I have an insight that the observer is the observed?
In nothingness there is complete security and stability.
Why has desire become such an extraordinarily important thing in life?
How does desire arise from perception?
Can I desire truth?
Is the energy of nothingness different from the energy of things?
Is that nothingness a hypothesis, a theory, a verbal structure, or truth?
In dying to the reality, only then there is nothingness.